[Lunatique]

Ok, I tried to find the answer to my question, but no luck yet.

My question:

It never used to happen, but now these days, I see everyone aiming ABOVE or to the SIDE of the head, and they are getting headshots left and right. I tried to replicate the same thing, but could never do it.

It makes no sense since the guns in CS kick UPWARD, so wouldn't it make more sense to aim DOWN in order to have the guns kick UP to get a headshot?

Of course I try to get a headshot on my first burst, but sometimes in close range, you can't shoot in bursts--you just have to spray. This is why I need this question answered.

[Drunken Monkey]

Yeah. Study the spray patterns. They arent simply up. For instance a p90 is a T kind of pattern... it goes up and the side to side.

[Lunatique]

Ya, I know it's not just up. After about the 4th shot, it starts to kick up, then the spray pattern starts to go side to side. After that, it's just random madness.

So, WHY are people aiming for above and side of the head starting with the first shot of the spray?

[glody]

aim bot!!

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[[666]Flat]

Three letters that sum it up.

A W M

Accurate. Deadly. pWn4g3.

They're gonna hate you for it, but teh pWn4ge remains. H4RH4RH4RH4R.

btw. the ak47 has a weird spray pattern covering teh area "underneath" your gun barrel so it's def. possible to aim above teh head and still hit it. I'd say it's most probably teh only way to make a headshot anyway if you're on close range and full auto. But if you've got teh good ole Kalashnikov, full auto sucks anyway so you'd betta stick to burst fire. Y3z, even if you're engaging your fiends in close combat - dang, use yer 1337 aiming p0werz! And NO, you don't have ta cheat to be a r34l b|g pl4y4.
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[Drunken Monkey]

No it's not cheating.

There is 2 patterns T and O. I like T.
For example with AK you can hold your aim to the left of the head, press fire and move your aim down as recoil moves it up. The bullets will go up and to the right, if you compensate right u'll end up spraying pretty tightly at the head.

It makes sense to hold it down to the left too, but i dont do it.

God i havent played CS in a long time.

[Lunatique]

YES! Molotov from eatpoo.com answered my question!!

Check it:

"don't wanna register at taco! so i'll reply here:

that's is just a observer bug
if you look at players monitor directly you'll see that he is shooting as usual - aiming chest and head
but observer "in-eye" view will show you that is person taking aim above the head of enemy
that is the bug,
there is a console command cl_bobcycle, ( 0.8 by default )
in earlier version - setting cl_bobcycle to 1 caused crosshair and whole view move little bit down, allowing to shoot above the crosshair - that was very helpful for makin' headshots.
Btw, in current version cl_bobcycle command was changed (now it moves crosshair to the top) , an this affected on observer 1-st person view - you saw that.

for headshots here is some tactics for different types of rifles

for example - you will never get a guaranteed headshot with AK, making long bursts at long distances. But, at close range (1-10 meters) , if you aim at groin and chest and make burst of 5-10 rounds - possibility of headshot is increased.

m4a1 allows you to fire long bursts at medium ranges (5-20 meters) with high possibility of headshot - just aim head and strafe right-left. Dont forget to put silencer on- it increases accuracy but however decreases piercing force of bullets a little

and so on"

Here's another question:

BTW, I've heard that the decals for the bullets holes you see when you shoot at a wall is just random, and has nothing to do with where the bullets actually landed. Is that true??? If it is, then testing the spray patterns of guns on a wall would be pointless, no?

[[666]Flat]

I tell you what, I'm a frickin' CS veteran and no matter what "tactics" you come up with, if you're playin' against somebody like me you're dead meat. So why don't you stop thinking and start KILLING?
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[[Shizo]]

Ahh.. somebody please 0wn flat in CS.
I wish i could but i deleted HL a year ago :0

Personally i dont understand why people still play it. It's so old eheheh

[Lunatique]

Ok, flat. You name the time and the place. We'll pick a map and go one on one--IF both of our pings are good. Let's see how L33t you really are. I've been playing since beta 5, so not exatctly a newbie here.

[faustgfx]

you all suck.
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[[666]Flat]

Oooh so yuo think you're a real pl4ya, right? WEEEEEEEEEEELLLLL... Listen, Mr. Lun4. I've got some exams to write this and next week so I have to do some "subl337 r34l l|f3 b|z", as we pr0-gam0rz tend ta call it. I'm all yours on from teh 22th on. Since 1vs1 is really boring in CS and, to be honest, pretty senseless (it's a team based game, after all) I suggest all those super1337 SIJUN FELLAS who want to shake it real good in Counter-Strike use that time span to get ahold of HL and the prementioned MOD CS and prepare for some serious kickass action. We have to find a public server too, maybe somebody can fix us out with that... or maybe I can contact some mate but since they're really hard into gaming I can't imagine it will be possible to be all alone (just Sijun freaks) on dat specific server. BUUUT never fear, I know some publics which are frequented seldomly, at least at times -- I'm sure we'll find a nice playground.

OK, so again... GET COUNTER-STRIKE... make sure it's runnin' stable... deadline's 22th january... be sure to read these forums. Shizo, it would enjoy it MUCHOS to meet ya on teh battle field. On the opposite team and on the very very wrong side of my rifle.

Over and out.
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[soogarrush]

sounds fun flat. i are in....if i can find my hl cd

mwahaha f34r my 1337 pwn4g3 5k1LLzZzZZZ


EDIT:
the good - i found my hl cd...deep in my porn collection...haha not really..but
the bad? - my 1337 veteran cs skiillz equates to nothing compared to cs players these days. in other words, i got my ass handed to me badly..but i got till the 22nd to practice..

[Sukhoi]

Hell I'm on!

Sukhoi

[Lunatique]

Bang-- dude, my ping was ridiculously high! That makes a huge difference when reaction time is crucial.

[paranoid?]

Navy seal is much more fun n_n

Navy seal > Counter strike
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[Andromeda]

Deleted my CS years ago ... but im a veteran quake player ....
the [*] behind my name was my old clan from quake 1.
ever seen homing rockets on Quake ? ... or maybe a 360 degree railgun shot while making use of a grenades blast damage to gain altitude ?
MUAHAHHAHAHAHA ...
so when DOOM 3 comes out .... I'll take any of you guys on !

Lunatique VS [666]Flat on CS ? ... issit gonna happen ? .. keep posting, this could be intersting.
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[[Shizo]]

Andromeda.. hehh you bastard. There was no railgun in Quake 1
However since Q1 i enjoy the mods that people come up with more than the game itself.

I mean does anyone enjoy the original Q1, Q2, or HL?
Nevermind Q2, there weren't any good mods made for it

[Andromeda]

Nope no railgun in quake 1 ... im just too used to using the term 'Quake' for numbers 2 and 3 ... =p ..

Youre right about the the mods thing tho ... its the Mods that make the games better than they are.
And who says theres no good mods for Q2 !!
Battleground ! And rocket arena started in Q2 ! ... man i missed Rocket Arena ...

Shizo, sounds like you've played quake in your time .... pick up DOOM3 when its out will you ? hehehehehehe
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[[Shizo]]

Well ok, i saw quite a few people who liked RocketArena in Q2 and Q3. I'm pretty sure they had it in Q1 too though, although i didn't play it.. Not my type of game. I really enjoyed TeamFortress-MegaTF-TFC though! Those bastards keep putting off TF2 LOL. I mean, it must be the longest delayed game ever. DukeNukem taking the second place..

I checked out Doom3 alpha, and god damn you need a supercomputer to run it :0 Looks good, can't say anything about gameplay. Although i'm afraid i wount like it as much, since id is focusing on "sci-fi movie mood, scary" aspect of it, while i value interactivity and fun in games. Also teamplay, or whatever else new types of online play they come up with (another reason why i like mods so much).

Yeah..

[Atherium]

All I have to say is that cs needs to die, die a slow and painful death for which it desserves. The second 1.3 came out all hell broke loose now little
n00blettes who go and pick this game up have a fighting chance against pros because of this bs recoil head shot combo, all you have to do is hold the ak above someones head and they are toast. Not to mention the fact that the recoil makes no sense at all in that game.

If they switched up the hit boxes some and made headshots a 1/100 percentage because 99/100 of the hs are accidental anyway I might re install that piece of crap. I won't even start with the hacking.

[soogarrush]

for me, all hell broke loose in beta 7....or whenever valve came into the scene. thats when the game started going downhill...

i just played for an hour or so...gah, there are seriously no decent servers around anymore.

[Ragnarok]

For CS, I played until beta 1.3
And I could do a headshot with the AK from long distances. THe first shot was always in the center of the cross.

About Quake, well, the best one was the first one. Period.

And no, I won't join you on 22 because I got HL deleted and my finals start 28.
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[[Shizo]]

The most fun i had in CS was on siege back when they used to have the two terrorist rooms sealed off, and they would always camp with hostages in one room and CT tried to rush in, it was so much fun until they added that god damn vent

[paranoid?]

Hehe for those that are fed up with CS and hates it just check Navy Seals.

Its a mod made with the Quake 3 engine, same concept as Counter Strike exept its WAY! better...more realistic, better graphic, great game play and team play is awesome since you only see you friends on the radar and only know enemies and friends are dead if you report them....and you can report your status. In Cs you had to accumulate cash and sometime it was annoying...in Navy seals you accumulate "skill points" you can place in area like strength, speed, technique, accuracy, etc allowing you to use some weapons better, be faster and use other weapons.

hehe and for the "kill the VIP" games the VIP look like a fat version of Bin laden =P

really...this game is awesome n_n
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[Lunatique]

Do you have to have quake III installed for Navy Seals?? Or, can you just have the demo version of QIII installed?