[pixtur]

Hi

I am trying to get some feeling for prorportion and color of the human face. I tried this one and tried to stay away from foto-references. Ok, I spend too much effort on senseless detail (which can�t compansate the obvious uglyness).

It would be nice, if anyone has an idea, how to make this drawing look more realistic.

Any hints, overpaints or ideas are welcome.

tom



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[neff]

I Love the colors of the hair!
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[Max]

Hey, welcome back.
Guess you don't know me but I know you and your art truly rocks!
I remember you cityscape...wow

Alright, first I have to say that this is very well done for painted without ref.
I think the whole look is too smouth to be realistic.
Use sharper edges or more opasity.
The contrast between shadow and light is also too big.
The ear is too little ( i think = not sure ) and the chin too thin.
The whole backpart of the head is too big ( not sure again? )
So I'm not a pro at anatomy but maybe that helps, or maybe I'm wrong.
Let's wait for other people opinions

Anyway, you did a great job.
keep it up

[gfsap]

It's good and all, it is a very nice start. I'm not a pro, but I think the ear is misplaced. I think the ear has to be more to the right. that's my opinion about it hehe. The rest of the picture is good

[Drunken Monkey]

This is really really fast and dirty cut/paste slapped together paintover. I am sorry if its more of a butchery but i think it sums up a little bit of what people are saying here.




By the way i really like your pic. Reminds me of mgs2 for some reason :]

[Ragnarok]

Follow Dr Monkey overpaint, the problem is the head, it's too big. The rest is very nice
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[pixtur]

Oh wow! I didn�t expact so many replies...

My problem is, that I have no "construction-plan", how to build a face. I am blocking out some rough values, but then I am smuging around huge blocks of the face. I have no idea WHAT i am doing. When spooge always explains to keep the shapes seperated and with hard egdes, I am wondering, where those hard edges can be found in a face. But I know, that without those "shapes" it�s pretty hard to get shading and detailing right. It�s like fishing instead of working. (only) Sometimes you are lucky.

Neff: Thank you!. I made the hair just like Jezebel explained in their absolut fantastic hair-tutorial.

Max Kulich: Didn�t expect someone would remember me. It�s nice my sijun-account did not has been deleted because of accute lazyness.
Thank you about the comments about my "work", which is not that good. I know you too. You works in the selfportrait-topic are excellent. I already noticed, that you are from Germany, too.
All comments are very correct. After you mentioned them, I could see them for myself. To biggest problem are the hard edges. I don�t know, I will give it a try.

gfsap: The ear was indeed misplaced!

Dr. Monkey! Thank you for the overpaint. I do not care about the "quality" of the overpaint (which is very good), but about the mistakes it clearifies. Excellent! I love sjun for so many people helping each other!

Ragnarok: Thank you.

I had a close look at Dr.Monkey�s overpaint, and tried to overlay a small schematic sketch which I learned at university. It clearly shows my wrong positioning of the ear. Another problem is the area below the ear. The form of the jaw (?) ending at the ear is really difficult for me.


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[Gort]

An invaluable reference, I have this printed out and taped it to the inside of my sketchbook; it's great to turn to in times of need (you can purchase a large laminated poster size from the website below - I got one of those too):

http://www.vilppustudio.com/wpe75342.gif

From Glen Vilppo Studio

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[pixtur]

Don�t know, if this is leading somewhere... It least not to a realistic looking image.


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[Max]

Hey, you improved alot. well done.
one little tip: do not use pure white in the background - it darkens all the other colors extremely.

Thanks for the comment.
That means alot to me when someone like you say that.
And I'm from austria

if you want to see my progress go to this thread: http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=30778
I made litle tut for somone there some time ago....
you see the brushes I use and two steps.
maybe your interested....

have a nice day
- max