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JesperGB junior member
Member # Joined: 03 Jun 2001 Posts: 43 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 2:27 am |
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I have a problem.. When I am painting in photoshop and trying to make something look more smooth it always ends up so I can still see my strokes. Can someone give me some tips in doing that? Or maybe some links for some good tutorials?
Check out an image i've done and you can see what i mean:
_________________ /Jesper GB
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aColdOldKodiak member
Member # Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 298 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 12:52 pm |
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use bigger brushes, or use less power on the brush. _________________ http://jcaart.cjb.net |
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eyewoo member
Member # Joined: 23 Jun 2001 Posts: 2662 Location: Carbondale, CO
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 1:28 pm |
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For the final strokes, set your opacity quite low... 20-30% and then brush orver brush over brush... set it even as low as 7% to 10%. _________________ HonePie.com
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 2:33 pm |
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Click the image to see the original size ... I used the smudge tool in Photoshop ... 10% strength.
And now I know why I use the Gimp _________________ http://www.conceptworld.org |
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jr member
Member # Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 1046 Location: nyc
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 2:46 pm |
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do you use a tablet? anyways, keep your hand on the alt key, pick up the color and with the brush set on low opacity, keep on picking up the color and workin it. _________________ |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 3:06 pm |
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Hi Jesper!
This is the way I do it in two steps:
First I paint big shapes with a softbrush 100% hardness. Opasity 50
Thwn I take the sotfbrush again with 0% hardness and paint over it again and again. Opasity 10
Maybe that helps a bit.
- max |
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syco26 member
Member # Joined: 31 Mar 2002 Posts: 60 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 11:32 pm |
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hey Max Kulich are you talking about PS?
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First I paint big shapes with a softbrush 100% hardness. Opasity 50 |
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Thwn I take the sotfbrush again with 0% hardness and paint over it again and again. Opasity 10 |
If so what are you referring to when you say
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100% hardness0% hardness |
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saripol member
Member # Joined: 17 Nov 2000 Posts: 191 Location: Selangor, Malaysia
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Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2002 12:18 am |
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you can try a big soft edge airbrush with low(~10%) opacity
glaze your brush a few times in the same area and it would have a nice smooth color build-up _________________ http://www.akarumbi.com |
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Phenylacetat junior member
Member # Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2002 1:18 am |
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i think max is talking about painter _________________ Just 'coz u call me paranoid, there's no proof they do not follow me. |
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ViiSolidus junior member
Member # Joined: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 42
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Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2002 4:17 pm |
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HE means PS I'm pritty sure. When u use a brush, u know the menue that u select the "type"(soft/hard/etc.) well once you select one of those brushes you can double clikc on the small picture that comes with it. (once you click on the sof/hard/etc. brush and click on the screen beside the arow for the drop down menue to select yer brushes is an image) once you double click that image you will be able to select/adjust the hardness of the brush.
Hope this helps |
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Tinusch member
Member # Joined: 25 Dec 1999 Posts: 2757 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2002 7:27 pm |
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Looks like you're using hard-edged brushes. If you want smooth transitions, it's probably best to use soft-edged brushes. And the lower the opacity, the better. I would avoid smudge/blur, just because it's a little hard to control the results. |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 7:49 am |
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Photoshop 7.0
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ViiSolidus junior member
Member # Joined: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 42
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Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 7:57 am |
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Yeah, thats what I meant lol |
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 12:12 pm |
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Wow Max! I guess you are the Magician.
I�m still waiting for your next picture to be posted.
Matthew |
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neff member
Member # Joined: 11 May 2002 Posts: 1444 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 12:17 pm |
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is it legitim to use the smudgetool? _________________ *
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Mon member
Member # Joined: 05 Sep 2002 Posts: 593 Location: Uppsala, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 2:13 pm |
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neff -- yo dude, there is NOTHING you can possibly think of that's against the rules (next to posting someone else's stuff that is). If your picture nees a photoshop3.0 lensflare then you gotta "bita i det sura �pplet" as some of us say over here...
As for the fuzz about smooth brushstrokes... seriously guys, why bother? i kind of like it rough,dont you? =)
peace and love guys!
/mon _________________ www.mattiassnygg.com
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rbfigueira member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2000 Posts: 62 Location: Lisbon / Portugal
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 12:41 am |
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Max,
First of all thanks for sharing your knowledge
1- When you say: "... softbrush 100% hardness.."
softbrush ?!?!
When you put 100% hardness, the brush is not softbrush but hardbrush !
What you are trying to say ???
You use Mode = Normal ?
"...Opasity 50..."
Opasity= pressure ?
2- Normaly when you paint, what image size you use (2500,3000) Pixels ?
3 - Normaly what brush size you use... ok, depends on image size ;P
4 - You use the AirBrush tool. I am correct ?
5 - Do you have more examples how you do your stuff (tutorials or more images)
?
Note:
I am trying to open an account at (http://www.8ung.at/), but i dont understand
nothing (language)...
I have filled the form (webspace) totay.... i have to do anything or only wait
Thanks for all
Best regards,
RBFIGUEIRA |
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neff member
Member # Joined: 11 May 2002 Posts: 1444 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 6:41 am |
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plz dont use 8tung, its slow and full of pop ups
(8tung = acht-tung= achtung/german = warning/engl. _________________ *
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 4:00 am |
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hi
rbfigueira: Alright, I'll explain it to you.
1. Sorry, I meant the bush tool
No, the brush tool is still the brush tool also with 100% hardness.
That's the stroke with the brush tool at 100%hardness:
Setting:
And this with the pencil tool (doesn't matter which hardness:
Setting:
Opasity: 50 Mode: normal
>>Opasity= pressure ?<<
NO, Opasity is the transparency of the stroke:
And pressure is the sensitiveness of your wacom by pressurization
(my english is bad, hope you understand...):
2. Depands on the detail I want to achieve.
For speedpaintings I use 1000 x 1000.
More detailed images need at least 2000 x 2000.
At this resolution I can only work in greyscale 'cause my computer is crap....�chz
3. depands on my computer which is....I mentioned already.
I made my own brushes:
200 and 300 are too big for a resolution of 2000 x 2000 [ for my comp. ]
4. Yes, also, it's named brushtool in ps7
5. Not many, just this one:
http://www.8ung.at/max.kulich/sijun/frodobagginssteps.jpg
>>>Note:<<<
If you've done everything right just wait until you get your mail with the password and stuff.
8ung.at is very good ( I think ) and you can dissable the pop ups [NeFF]
It isn't too slow......or, I don't know.
It works great for me without any problems....
Hope I could help!
- max |
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rbfigueira member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2000 Posts: 62 Location: Lisbon / Portugal
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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 6:24 am |
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Thanks Max for sharing ;P
Know i understant better what you doing
Thanks for all !!
Note: About the 8ung.at i will wait for them mail .... i hope i have made everything right ;P
Best regards,
RBFIGUEIRA (Ricardo Figueira)
http://rbfigueira.gfxartist.com/ |
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rbfigueira member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2000 Posts: 62 Location: Lisbon / Portugal
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 2:51 am |
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Max,
You said that you have made your own brushes !
I dont whant to abuse BUT can you share your Brushes
Thanks for all... I hope one day you can make some tutorials for us ;P
Best regards,
RBFIGUEIRA (Ricardo Figueira)
http://rbfigueira.gfxartist.com/ |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 4:18 am |
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Yes, of course
- Just klick and download -
http://www.8ung.at/max.kulich/sijun/maxbrushes.abr
But, they aren't very special or will help you much. Just normal brushes.
I will make some tutorials one day but not in the next three years haha, nah I'm too bad at the moment to share my knowleadge, but I will, I will.....
have a nice day, ;D |
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rbfigueira member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2000 Posts: 62 Location: Lisbon / Portugal
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 5:58 am |
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Thanks Max
Your website is not complete....
Can I see some paints (images) made by you? Where? I will like to see it.
Note: I did not receive any email from 8ung.at, yet!
Cheers� |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2003 4:27 am |
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i sent you a pm - hope it arrived |
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JesperGB junior member
Member # Joined: 03 Jun 2001 Posts: 43 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:21 am |
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Hi Max
I was the original poster of this topic - and your tip helps me alot so THANKS alot - i'll work on it now and practice... _________________ /Jesper GB
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ZeeWire junior member
Member # Joined: 19 May 2002 Posts: 33 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2003 6:55 am |
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When I try to get a smooth area I also like to use a combination of hard & soft brushes.
Besides holding the ALT key to sample colors, I tend to use alot the Braket Keys [], this allows me to size Up of Down the brush while I'm painting and, better yet, control the softness of the brush when I hold them in combination with the SHIFT key.
So if you like to keep painting instead of digging for a menu, control the softness with SHIFT+[ or SHIFT+]
I hope it helps. _________________ ZeeWire
>Art is the Blood from my Creative Soul.< |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:58 am |
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happy I could help |
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