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Inspector Lee
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 2:09 pm     Reply with quote
I've seen a lot of work in this forum that has some beautiful and very natural looking paint spatter. Any help achieving this effect would be appreciated.
I'm currently using Photoshop 7, but would consider buying another application if it was worth the expense.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 2:46 pm     Reply with quote
If you have got a scanner:
Get some ink and paper (regular printer paper is fine). Then start dripping, splashing, smearing and let your creativity guide you. Then scan and turn the mess into custom brushes.
A great thing in PS7 is that you can scale any brush, even the custom ones.
When I made my first custom brushes in 5.5 I had to manually scale and create tons of brushes.

In painter it's easier to make strange marks and get a radom feel. But I miss the regular "dead" photoshop brushes too much to be comfortable in painter.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 9:28 am     Reply with quote
Thanks Zaar. Boy do I feel dumb. I've been creating brushes for a while now and this simple (o.k. obvious) solution never occurred to me. Embarassed

I've been re-scaling many of the existing brushes by hand ie: Tapping them on a blank page, enlarging the page and then redefining the new larger brush. Is there a simpler way to do this?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:58 am     Reply with quote
You wrote that you are using PS7, right? Then there is no need to rescale! Just drag the slider in the brush dialog. So make your custom brushes large, because if you ever have to scale them larger then the original size they will become blurry. There is even a button that returns the brush to the original size.

But if you really want to rescale brushes into many different sizes, you could try making an action (or even use the scripting function) that makes copies of a selection or image, and makes every copy in a new size.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 12:36 pm     Reply with quote
Anyone feel like sharing paint-splatter brushes, or brushes in general?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 3:42 pm     Reply with quote
if i remember there was a thread with splatter brushes and he was sharing the brushes he was using
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 4:09 pm     Reply with quote
http://pages.infinit.net/mannyp/splat.html
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:11 pm     Reply with quote
What timing! I just finished putting a ink splatter brush together the other day. Unfortunately I had to use Painter 6 to get the effect I was after, so it may be of little use to a strict-Photoshop user. The brush was created with 42 scans of singular ink drips at varying sizes, with the wacom pressure defining the size of the splat. The individual splats are randomly splattered around the brush stroke at random angles creating convincing, unique and, most importantly, controllable ink splatter effects easily. Heres a demo of what it does:



I was just so sick of always having to scan in or reuse ink splats even for small uses, and the spatter brush that comes packaged with Painter 6 is crap - it's all circular dots with no character or realism. Like they say 'If you want something done right, do it yourself'

Unfortunately, I can't make the brush downloadable from here *grumble webhost remote file block grumble* but I plan to have it available on my site once I get the chance to update.

Inspector Lee, I wouldn't exactly recomend getting Painter just for this tool, as you can do the same thing by hand with a scanner, but it's a nice time-saving tool that's a lot easier and cleaner than using ink every time you need the effect. Like everything with computers, there's many ways to the destination you're after - you just need to find the one that's right for you.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 11:57 am     Reply with quote
rdgraffix : I'd be really interested to see what you did with that brush. It looks awesome ! I've been experimenting a bit with ps7 brush engine as well but without any interesting results.
I attempted to reach your website but get an error message doing so.. Sad Let me knoooooow ! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:19 pm     Reply with quote
egere: I can't wait to get my hands on PS7, the brush engine looks amazing. Thanks for letting me know about the stuffed link - it's fixed now (please let me know if it still doesn't work). It seems the bloody url needs "/index.html" at the end or it sometimes comes up with denied access. *sigh* I really need to get myself a domain.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:00 pm     Reply with quote
Painter 7 can do it pretty well. PS 7 can do it ok, but the engine isn't as nearly advanced as Painter 7.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 2:41 am     Reply with quote
oDD: Thank you for the link, awesome brushes.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 7:53 am     Reply with quote
rdgraffix: It works now Smile I forgot those were your artworks ehe.. Still have to work on my artworks/nickname association !

oDD : those are nice ! (not all of them but still)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 11:37 am     Reply with quote
no prob Smile

anyway i see few people are intrested in those. few months ago i was doing a site for a q3 clan and i needed blood splats,(back then i didnt knew that link i gave you) so i made them with ink and paper and than scanned it.

you can see the site here

http://q3arena.gry.wp.pl/666

and if yore lazy and want to save few hours of waiting for ink to dry off you can download the scanned pages here:

pic 1 200k

pic 2 300 k

feel free to build your brushes from those, there are even my finger prints Smile

maybe someone could do somethink simillar with paint and a brush, that would be nice Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 11:52 am     Reply with quote
i quickly made a one brush to show you the possibilities (sp? sorry but its a har word Smile ) , so this is from Photoshop




i don't know maybe i could make few diffrent splatt brushes and post them...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 8:49 pm     Reply with quote
Here are some sample splatters made with the Painter 7 Liquid Ink category's Graphic Bristle variant and, for the bubbled paint splatters, one of my custom variants based on the Graphic Bristle variant that paints using a two-point Gradient as the color source (only shows in some of the smaller splatters at the bottom). This brush variant can be set to paint using a single color.

The splatters could be larger, smaller, different shapes, or depending on how you slap the paint onto the Canvas. Then the amount of depth (or thickness) of the paint is controlled by adjusting the Liquid Ink Layer's Amount slider. Density of the bristles is controlled by adjusting the Liquid Ink Layer's Threshold slider. Both Amount (depth) and Threshold (bristle density) can be controlled dynamically any time during the painting process.
If you don't want thickness or any adjustment to bristle density, just leave the sliders in their default positions and you get flat paint that could look more like spilled ink or any thin liquid.



White Background if you want to use these to make Photoshop brushes:



Another neat thing about Painter 7 Liquid Ink is that it's "vector-like" and can be painted at a smaller size, then resized upward and retain crisp anti-aliased edges.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 5:38 am     Reply with quote
also, which probably most of y'all know, if you click the wet edges box in the brush menu in ps, then you get the effect of sort of having the splat dried into the paper similar to what odd showed...
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