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zou
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 8:46 pm     Reply with quote
i would start a sketch thread.
Getting good proportions on many things (not only figure) nature, castles and animals.
i just did a little tutorial on figure (that's what i knwo actually)
it's a method like others. feel free to add your method(correct) and your tips (not links) about this and others things.

i hope that artists of sijun will help teaching futur artists.


http://zouhayer.free.fr/FIGURE.HTM

replies welcome.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 9:30 pm     Reply with quote
May I?

a quick sketch study in proporion and light...ick. oh well I tried.
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Malachi Maloney
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 1:47 am     Reply with quote
Here's a cut-out from a sketch I'm working on right now. Should be a cool painting when I'm finished, haven't done a male figure for a while...


Cool thread.

Take it easy,
~M~
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 5:30 am     Reply with quote
a couple quick charcoal sketches done when I was a student...



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 8:30 am     Reply with quote
Damn Malachi nice...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 8:35 am     Reply with quote
Malachi ... niceeeeeee ....
but damn, if i met that guy in real life, i'd be really freaked out ...
his veins are popping out everywhere ... i feel like taking a safety pin, and poke the underside of one of those veins, and pull it out ... and play with it a while ... my god ...
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zou
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 9:05 am     Reply with quote
hope the thread will be bigger.
Andy : i said no links cause users post links that we know and not their own tips from their experience.I just want many good tips from many experience.
I didn't said sijun artists didn't helped but their help is not on one thread and searching all of them is a little hard.

Please post on other things such as animals nature architecture.

Malachi : good sketch, can you tell us how make correct veins and sketching techniques.

I found andrew loomis's pages on fineart.sk
it's a great book, but most of artists don't want read this whole book, so we try to pick important things.

i tried to correct the page, i made all name lower case and no dash. hope it work now, if any one want host this page on his website !

http://zouhayer.free.fr/figure.php
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 9:27 am     Reply with quote
I like this thread.
Those are mine...





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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 10:48 am     Reply with quote
fantastic choice of topic zou...
I'm just getting started though, is there anyone that knows a good site for hosting pictures and such?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 12:38 pm     Reply with quote
I started this with a block-in, which is using a few lines to get the geometric patern of the figure outlined. Then it's all about breaking down the lines into forms until you have a countour drawing. The good thing about this technique is that it's a good way to learn proportioning and triangulating features to get them to match up. The bad part is you're not directly learning anatomy in the process. Also if you don't have a ref or model you're screwed. It's a great way to train your eyes though. If anyone is interested in this technique look up Anthony Ryder. He has a great book on it. Sorry for the crappy quality of this.



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O_F_M
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 1:52 pm     Reply with quote
here are some of my sketches:

There are 3 versions of this:


#2:



#3:



Then a lil speed sketch i did in about 15 min:


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Malachi Maloney
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 2:20 pm     Reply with quote
Sorry, I didn't read the post correctly.

Hmmm, how to sketch decent veins? Well, first off, I thought the lines used to accentuate the veins in his arms were too strong, in the painting they won't stand out nearly as much. Anyway, I guess the best way to go about sketching veins into and arm/hand/whatever, is to approach it like every other part of your sketch. First start sketching in your lines as to the placement of the actual veins. After you know were you plan on placing the veins, start matching them up to your light source. Stronger line where the shadow falls and an almost non-existent line where the light hits them.

That's pretty much the best way I know to go about it. I anyone else has some suggestions, I'd be more than happy to hear them.

Anyway, sorry for contributing to the "dumping" of images, I was just looking for an excuse to share a part of my new sketch.

Take it easy,
Malachi
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 3:03 pm     Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 7:11 am     Reply with quote
Great thread! I guess the best way learning how to sketch is just taking your time, drawing things from life, and above all, do not erase. make sure you have plenty of paper so you can just go on when you fail. The more you work, the more you will learn about volumes, lighting etc. Maybe this would be the "hard" way, but I guess there is no "easy". I try, I try.. Damn, I need to go figure drawing..
My lack of scanner is really giving me a hard time, since scribbling with a wacom is a lot different than original media, in the meantime I think painter offers the least sterile feeling when sketching. Random doodle:
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 2:13 am     Reply with quote
here's a tip- When you draw from life (or just doodling, really) don't just draw the figure in isolation, draw a box around it and make a composition instead of a floating collection of heads and torsos. That way when you get to the required several hundred thousand (ahem*()() figures, you will have done the same with compositions. That skill responds to practice just like any other.

Another way is to draw the figure and things around it and experiment when to box it in, or box it in one side at a time. experiment.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 4:37 am     Reply with quote
Thanx Spooge, guess the hard way is ahead! Will give it a load of tries..
I had an idea about taking a paper and drawing volumes and objects while concentrating on the same lightsource for all objects. Maybe learning about shadow on objects vs. drop shadow. (I'm not sure what that might lead to but anyway.)

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Ps. Yeah spooge, boxing in will probably help you to learn perspective and background composition along the way, not just drawing objects I guess. Ds.

over and out.

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Malachi Maloney
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 2:32 pm     Reply with quote
allfiction~ My above sketch was done on a Wacom. Just takes a little time to get used to it.

spooge~ Thanks for the tip, I'll try that.

Take it easy,
~M~
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:25 pm     Reply with quote
didnt notice this thread till now



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 11:46 pm     Reply with quote
Uhh.. this is my 2nd post here. OK, here's a live drawing I did last winter. I don't actually have any tips for you guys, 'cos I'm pretty unexperienced in drawing live things. I Could use few myself though

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2002 1:21 am     Reply with quote
Here's a couple..

Will post some more later..

-Mikael
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:05 am     Reply with quote
Some recent sketches using a Wacom tablet and PShop 7









Detail from above drawing...


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:39 am     Reply with quote
some more sketchy stuff

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 2:18 pm     Reply with quote
One thing that has helped me to draw movement, light and all that is this:
Get yourself a movie, any. pause at intresting scenes and sketch your heart out.
Helps alot with movement mostly, bringing life to pics.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 11:50 pm     Reply with quote
Here is one from me:...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2002 3:58 am     Reply with quote
This is Chinese Ink painting. To paint a hourse. I soak the Chinese brush part water and part Chinese ink. when you painting need keep the light in mind. One strok have to carry dark and light and muscle definition.

Brush the dark tone first. then befor it dry paint the light tone. let the ink run it self. It will some how trun the result more then you expect.

don't do too much fex work. let it be what it be.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2002 4:39 am     Reply with quote
kid face expression

I like how children innocent. here I have few their face.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2002 5:48 am     Reply with quote
that horse is absolutely gorgeous, chiani
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