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Mr. T
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 6:45 am     Reply with quote
some stuff i did in school today, thought i'd share:





left this one in lineart... shading it at the moment






crits and comments are very welcome

cheers

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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 7:02 am     Reply with quote
its looking very good!! i wish i could draw such complex machinery! keep it up!
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 7:13 am     Reply with quote
These look really good. My only suggestions would be:

1. Try to keep paper cleaner.
2. Use a simpler shading technique. See Greg Pros work for what I'm talking about --- sorta.
3. Perphaps, use some darker pencils.

The forms are really quite nice. But, yeah I think it look more professional if you just used a simple line shading and then on the ones that you wanted to spend the time do a more complex rendering.

But.. this is just my opinion and of course would be depedenant on needs of drawing.

Thanks for sharing these.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 9:17 am     Reply with quote
Awesome, as always.

And I must say, as utterly unbelievable as this may sound, I agree with what Light had to say.

But just for piece of mind, remind everyone of exactly how old you are, Mr. T.
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Mr. T
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 10:15 am     Reply with quote
Light:
1. i totally agree on this matter, and i'm always trying to keep it as clean as possible.
2. simpler shading technique- i don't agree on that. the problem is that the stuff i draw is usually too small. the full page (first two pics) is a5. have in mind that the scan killed most of the shading.
3. this one can do a wide range of values and i'm happy with it. it's a technical pencil tho, but it suits my technique quite fine.

none of these sketches took more than 10 minutes.

thanks for the comments folks.

pixel: yes i just turned 16 but i prefer not to use it as an excuse

thanks for the comments
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 12:07 pm     Reply with quote
Nononon, I didn't mean use it as an excuse, I meant BRAG about it!

You don't need any excuses for your work - it speaks volumes, especially at your age. I asked you to remind people of how old you are because I find it amazing that your foundations are already so solid.
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Mr. T
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 12:36 pm     Reply with quote
heh

Molako_Plus: "cuz most of the time i can't seem to draw what i see in my head" - that happens to me often too. but the thing is, the more you learn, the more of that stuff you're able to draw. it's a simple equation.

pixelsoldier: i'm a really lazy person... lately been pushing on the whole drawing thing to get the foundations. still have lots to learn but i'm glad someone thinks i'm making progress. thanks

i slapped some quick colors on one of the sketches:
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 12:54 pm     Reply with quote
dude, those are all awesome. the top one reminds me a lot of that movie, city of lost children.
i dig the mechanical feel on the robots. geez, i wish i was still going to high school so i could slack off and draw during class. *sigh*
great work!
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Jenn AKA Minks
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 2:31 pm     Reply with quote
As always i love your stuff Always awesome to se the things you come up wtih
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 3:10 pm     Reply with quote
These look very good, as usual. I like the face-implant. It'd look more "interesting" IMHO if the flesh was even more distorted and pulled where the implant is attatched.

I think your shading technique is pretty sweet...maybe you ought to try out some of those markers that concept designers tend to use.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 5:54 pm     Reply with quote
16...guh..
Damnit! I'm going to draw my arse off until I get better than that. Then I can bully you around 'cuz I'm a year older than you. Nah nah

Seriously, these drawings are really awesome. I'm sure you give your teachers heart attacks with what you draw on your assignments, if anything. Have you had anything published in school magazines or comics?
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 10:37 pm     Reply with quote
awesome it looks like you really enjoy drawing. i think i like these drawings so much because they're so explicitly, technologically morbid, in a curious sort of way.

i see your work having an amazing amount of potential, but being able to benefit from some formal instruction. you'd improve a ton if you took figure drawing classes. the 2 main things i took from mine [and am still learning, since i'm currently in a class] are [1] how to shade effectively, like using cast shadows vs ambient shadows to describe volume and [2] getting a 3-dimensional image of the human body in my mind, so i can imagine a pose on paper and make it work accurately.

another thing is that your body armor is so rigid.. i myself am trying to learn to draw that stuff, and the idea artists keep telling me is that it should complement, imitate or enhance the forms of the human body, making the creature wearing it look more scary or prettier or something. it helps the design look better if you know where the muscles and things go, so you can design the outfit to look better and work like it could be worn easily.

anyway.. just trying to help you out

- laura

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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 11:18 pm     Reply with quote
yur only 16?!?!?

dont u dare use it as an excuse cuz im 19 and your my inspiration man. WoW... looking at this tells me to get the F off my lazy fat ass and start drawing more.

is it possible to have an over-developed imagination compared to my skills?....cuz most of the time i cant seem to draw what i see in my head.

or is it just me?...
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2002 11:38 pm     Reply with quote
sweet stuff!
love that big lineart pic.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2002 12:12 am     Reply with quote
I bet your teacher says,"Excuse me, Mr. T! But is there something that you would like to share with the class? Hmm.. Uh.. On second thought you keep that to yourself."

Great Work, Mr. T. I pity the foo who can't draw better than you. (and is older than you)

Try making a guy with a who has a got a mouth, where you can fit in a gas nozzle. I think that would be great cover art for a paper on the US and petroleum. Of course if that kind of sadistic stuff isn't your thing, just keep up the good work.
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Mr. T
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2002 7:14 am     Reply with quote
wow, thanks for the replies

sweetpea: didn't see that movie yet, trying to find it for some time now. thanks.

jenn:

novacaptain: i'll try the flesh distortion in the next sketches. and about the markers... i think it's pretty hard to find decent ones here, but i'll look around. would like to give them a try

bloodstone: never published anything. we don't have a school mag, so... there's still time tho

nova: you betcha they're not as morbid as i want them to be, still have to work on that. the problem here with the figure drawing classes is that there aren't any. i try to draw from life as much as i do from mind, sketch from tv, etc. thanks for the help.

tek9z: 10q

damnpuppy: that kind of sadistic stuff is exactly my thing i'll sketch it later today.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2002 7:15 am     Reply with quote
some stuff i did today:

warmup during chem class


bit better stuff during math & croatian class


uninspired stuff, not happy with it at all

color version:


a tiny sketch i decided to colour



off to sketch some more

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Jenn AKA Minks
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2002 7:23 am     Reply with quote
wow.. awesome new stuff!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2002 8:59 am     Reply with quote
Awsome man !! * standing ovation !! *
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2002 9:11 am     Reply with quote
You did these at warm up DURING chem class??... what are you man? Born at 300 Mph and still flying????

Stunning... absolutely stunning!!!

Love you style Mr. T!!!

Ohhh yeah... and love that one: "metal has the beauty flesh is not aware of..."!!!!

... damn I wish I still went to school!!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2002 10:03 am     Reply with quote
Excellent stuff Tonch. These rock.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2002 11:50 pm     Reply with quote
You really know how to take away the last tiny bit of confidence a nub like me might have...

AWSOME STUFF!
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2002 11:29 pm     Reply with quote
the magic pen: aww

arkoh: i always draw during classes. heh you noticed my poetry

akolyte: thanks dude

saladbowl: thanks

here's a decent colouring of the suit pic (the old one was too ugly, was too annoyed with it so i had to do the new one):

5-10 minutes
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2002 3:12 am     Reply with quote
wow, love em!
do you look at some ref when doing this machinery?
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2002 4:05 am     Reply with quote
nope, no refs.

should get some, tho. it's much easier and realistic looking then.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2002 7:55 am     Reply with quote
In my opinion you don�t need any refs, you may fall into the "out of the mould" category when we see machines and cyborgs. We see all the same repetition of mechanisms and parts on most concept work today. The thing I love about your work is it is very unique, of course you�re bound to have some influences etc but seriously stuff from your head is what will get you noticed. Although I do admit it is good to have some refs to get your mechanical drawing really sharp, just don�t borrow too much and stick with your "components" Very cool, I have to say I thought you were 19 - 20 the grasp of form and space you have at your age is an invaluable asset that will set you streets apart of anyone your age, keep it up and you will be a great success one day... one day, how about now Good luck and keep up the wicked work.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2002 8:09 am     Reply with quote
Wow, awsome sketches. It's rather eery though... I have been working on a painting that looks very much like those cyborg pictures of yours for the eatpoo contest. You do it so much better than me though. ;O)
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