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Happy Man
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 7:50 pm     Reply with quote
Why do people like rap?

This is a question that has always remained in my mind ever since I first heard the deep-bass, no talent drum beats coming from my sister's room.

Now, many of you may beg to differ, but I consider music a form of art. When I listen to music, I want to feel something...I want to have a visual in my head, and I want a song that creates an atmosphere while listening to it, while also giving a melody which just sends chills down your spine.

I like music such as Noise Unit, Evil's Toy, Velvet Acid Christ, etc etc....trance is great too. But lets think of "Rap" for a moment, shall we?

Have you ever really sat and analyzed rap?
There is NO melody.
The melodies for Rap songs come from its dinstinctive annoying bass, and the drum beats are what actually get people moving when they want to hump other people's asses pretending to "dance".

I don't want to get into an argument about the lyrics in Rap, because that is a very strong topic in some people's minds..
It's the actual mood of this music, the talent and the melody itself.

There is *no* atmosphere in "rap" music as far as I'm concerned, and if I listen to it I just don't feel anything.
Surely there are numerous opinions on music, and some like other types...But I am saying this with a whole heart that I truly believe rap has *no* atmosphere.

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Akolyte
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 7:52 pm     Reply with quote
Sijun Cop semi disagree.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 9:12 pm     Reply with quote
For a so called happy person you talk alot of shit....
in my opinion...you haven't heard good rap...
by the way...you don't deserve to listen to
Noise Unit if yer preaching happy horse shit.....goodbye
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Jabberwocky
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 9:38 pm     Reply with quote
I read from one post (was closed) from Happy Man:

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What is art?
Do you really believe it's actually worth anything in this world?
Paint thrown on a canvas, with petty remarks about it's supposed "meaning". A sculpted statue of the human form.
What does this serve us?

If you all are so adament about reaching some sort of height with your artistry, why not sit back and think about the true meaning of this little "hobby" of yours.
Is it serving any purpose?
Do we really need you?

Does this forum really use your time properly? Are you gaining anything out of these 2nd rate critiques from these strangers on an internet forum?

Sit back and think about your life for a while, is it really worth the time?


Then Happy Man Says:
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Now, many of you may beg to differ, but I consider music a form of art. When I listen to music, I want to feel something...I want to have a visual in my head, and I want a song that creates an atmosphere while listening to it, while also giving a melody which just sends chills down your spine.


You asked "Do we really need you?" "Do you really believe it's actually worth anything in this world?" well you answered it yourself. You yourself "... consider music a form of art." and you "...want a song that creates an atmosphere while listening to it, while also giving a melody which just sends chills down your spine." Well apparently you can't do that on your own. You need one of us (i.e. Artist) to give you that "atmosphere" you so crave.

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...if I listen to it I just don't feel anything.


Well get big speakers and good amp and turn the bass all the way up... if you can't feel anything then you have major problems!

okay that was my two cents on those two subjects!

[ August 02, 2001: Message edited by: Jabberwocky ]
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Happy Man
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 9:58 pm     Reply with quote
Oooh my oh my.

Well, it's just too easy to contradict most of you on here, now isn't it?

You all tell me to stop posting negative posts, and get a life?

Well, I post a reasonably normal post, questioning the artistry of Rap, and what do you do?

You try and throw my own words back at me?

lol

Well, yes on that thread I did say those things, didn't I?

But, I never mentioned music....so, that pretty much wipes your little negativity away, doesn't it?
I said "art", and then I claim I believe music is an art. Well, when I was questioning the worth of art, I was questioning exactly what I stated.
Paintings, sculptures, drawings...etc.
I stated those, if you actually happen to read what you "copy and paste".

Too bad, try again next time when you're actually worthy of challenging me.

Btw, I question your worth...even though that is something I began on another thread, I will leak it into this one, because you are obviously contributing nothing to my thread here.

It's funny the blatent argumentative mind-set most of you obviously have on here.

Just thirsting for me to post something more, so you can have something to bitch about, yes?

You are worth nothing to me, nor this thread...so please take your negativity somewhere else.

I was never once negative on ANY of my posts, btw. I simply brought up QUESTIONS, which people like you...who are so eager to argue, translate into negative inquisitions.

These supposed whiney complaints about how this "sijun forums" is following our feces down the drain because of flame-wars, really is due to someone like you.

So please, if you're going to challenge me... try a little harder next time
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Happy Man
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:23 pm     Reply with quote
Btw, this is for Poprockz...

Don't deserve to listen to Noise Unit because I preach "happy horse shit"?

...hmmm...I don't know why I'm dignifying this comment, but I will simply because I have great respect for Bill Leeb's project.

Apparently you have NO clue whatsoever what Noise Unit is all about. Please, try and tell me that you have actually communicated with bill leeb before, and spoke to him specificly about noise unit songs?

Well, I have. Reason I communicated with him?
Because I had a few questions about some songs he did, and asked for some of his advice and also what equipment he uses, etc etc...

I'm not sure what you are trying to imply, that I shouldn't listen to them if I preach "happy horse shit"...but is it that you feel Noise Unit has some sort of dark, unhappy theme to it?
If that is so, I will not say you are not "worthy of listening to them" because that is just an assanine comment. Anyone can listen to anything they wish.
But, what I will say is this: If you believe that Noise Unit is anything that is contrasting happiness, then you will never be able to truly appreciate that music.

Now show me those pearly whites!
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Gnome the Juggalo
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2001 12:46 am     Reply with quote
Happy man what I am about to say is unoriginal, stupid and boring. But in the interests of stress relieving I have to say it.

I'd really like to choke your fucking neck.

*feels better*

Ah good stuff, now let me do it for real and I will feel even better...dissing rap...Happy POS
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2001 1:05 am     Reply with quote
I see he's still trolling.

Closing the topic.
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