[J-D Leon]

good, bad, evety thing is welcome.

[Ogereye]

dont like the face...
but the hair is not bad...the eyes are to different and to weight....

[Novacaptain]

The eyes in the first picture are much too large, imagine the size of the eyeball...there'd be little room for brains in that head

The sketches in the second picture seem to have been made avoiding "tricky" or complicated areas. The reduced size contribute to the lack of detail.

The third picture looks better than the first.

I suggest getting a good book that'll take you through some observational drawing exercises.
"Drawing on the right side of the brain - Betty Edwards" Seems to come highly recommended and it is not a book that starts at an advanced level.

[ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: Novacaptain ]

[Crazy in Alabama]

novacaptain said:
there'd be little room for brains in that head

They ARE teenage girls.

Seriously though, any good portrait drawing guide should be able to give you some general rules for faces. One that should help is measuring faces by eye-width. In general, the space between the eyes is one eye-width. The proportions in the third image come closest to a real face.

I would suggest that you try form- rather than line-drawing. Our eyes see form in shadow and color. Lines are a trick the brain plays on itself. There are very few lines in organic subjects such as faces. The lines you think you see are boundaries between areas of light and shadow. Try drawing with the side of your pencil, not the tip.

My 2�

Tim

[Awetopsy]

try braking down the actual shape of a human head....

[Awetopsy]

hey... haha Novacaptain.. you're absolutely right.. good eye.. guess I rushed it off a bit quick..

[edit]Heh.. fixed 'em.

[ March 14, 2002: Message edited by: Awetopsy ]

[J-D Leon]

thanks every who gave me soo many nice and useful responds.

Novacaptain: when i have time i will check out the book u suggest!

Crazy in Alabama:a good guide is what i need, eh... i wonder how come every one can draw their characters with big eyes, n i can't? is that really disturbing? i think i realize something, that is shadow is also inportant to the image, thinks for ur suggestion

Awetorpsy:
here is the answer:

http://somsay.8m.com/july2a.jpg
i didn't read any book at all, so i devolop my own scale. the length of nose is equal to lenght between the middle of the eye and the end of the eye.
u can take a look at the pic above. and since she is FACING down, so the noce is shorting and chin is also shorting, and the eyes is looking upward in her perspective.

big eyes: i dont know how it come out soo big. if i change to smaller whole image would change, so i left it like that.

:-)

[ March 14, 2002: Message edited by: JD Leon ]

[Novacaptain]

that's a good demonstration awetopsy, i wonder if the nose/mouth aren't too low on the face though.

[Crazy in Alabama]

If her head is tilted downward and she is looking up, then you also have a perspective problem. All of your features are drawn as a full frontal portrait, and you tried to simulate foreshortening by moving them closer together. Her browline should conceal part of the eye if her head is tilted enough to make her face that short.

As for the eyes, you could use much more definition. Unless these girls have really dark irises, there should be a fairly well defined pupil and iris with some kind of highlight.

"Big black dots do not an eyeball make."

Also, the curved line on one side of the nose is sort of a clich�, like drawing M's for birds or lollipop shaped trees.