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tldenmark junior member
Member # Joined: 22 Feb 2002 Posts: 20 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 7:56 pm |
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Line or values? Here is the original drawing, and the finished full value version.
Looking forward to your feedback!
I don't mind if anyone wants to make corrections in photoshop and post the results. |
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Kaete member
Member # Joined: 07 Nov 2001 Posts: 214 Location: North Carolina, USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 8:30 pm |
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Oh... she's beautiful.
I know the word "beautiful" is throw around here at sijun all the time, but I really mean it.
No wonder druids worshipped oaks.
Now, on to the C&C, if you don't mind...
1.) While the photo-shopped version is wonderful for it's atmosphere and glow, the line one seems to work better.
2.) The biggest difference that stands out is the feet. In the line drawing they look alright. But in the colored version, the left has been smudged down while the right smudged up --- and so it looks like she has a deformed/short leg. Just smudging the feet back so they would look more even would *really* help.
3.) Also, in the line version it's easy to tell the right branch is twisting away, sort of following the gesture of her upraised arms. But in the colored version the lines aren't as easy to see, and for some reason it looks like the branch is going towards her.
For a second I almost thought she was resting her hand on the branch! I think it's because the slight glow around the hand. If you look at the other hand, the glow isn't as strong. The really strong glow laying thick around the right hand makes it look like it's so close to the wood that the light is reflection off of the wood.
At least, I think that's it. I could be wrong.
4.) I *love* his hand. Nice gesture with the fingers.
5.) You get a gold star for drawing boobs that actually look attached to the body! More people need this valuable skill!
6.) My last crit --- the leaves. Don't get me wrong, I really like them. They're very graceful. But they're also very lonely. It looks like these five leaves are the only leaves in the whole forest! If you put a few leaves on the forest floor, it might seem more natural to see falling leaves.
That's it for the C&C! I hope you don't think it's so long because I don't like the pic --- 'cause I really do. Bloody fantastic. |
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Wormius junior member
Member # Joined: 16 Jan 2002 Posts: 12 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 6:00 am |
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Very nice piece, though I have to agree I like the line art better than the shaded piece. No complaints about the spirit, and I like the robed guy. The only thing is that his arm seems a little too long compared to the rest of him, but that may just be because his knees are bent.
Great pic! I liked all the art on your site too! |
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dogfood member
Member # Joined: 27 Mar 2001 Posts: 131 Location: dog bowl
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 7:18 am |
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There are a couple things that seem wrong with the anatomy and proportions. Her torso is very short and gives the upper portion of the body a scrunched up feel until the neck (a tad thick for such a delicate creature) shoots out. If the center point is just above the crotch, it would be at the bottom of the modesty leaf. Her forehead should be a little more foreshortened for the angle her head is sitting at.
She doesn't seem to occupy the same dimension (or layer) as the tree, as if she were drawn seperately. Her left arm goes to a branch, while the other shoots out beyond the tree (as if she were off center to our left). If her arms were to follow the branches a little closer, I feel she would look more integral to the tree.
I agree that his hand is well done and very expressive, but it is a little too large for the rest of the figure.
I very much like the lineart for the tree and forest beyond.
Don't get discouraged, the first stages of "painting" always seem to me to look worse than the line art. It frustrates me to no end and often causes me to give up on the piece in frutration. Try not to compare the two (apples and oranges), just work through the painting as a seperate project.
Obviously this is my opinion and I may not have been very clear, but if you would like me to illustrate any of the points let me know (or is you'd like me to be still, I can do that, too) ![](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Zorglub member
Member # Joined: 20 Dec 2000 Posts: 268 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 9:29 am |
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Yikes this looks great. The only complaint I would have is that the tree is too dark. In all that darkness it loses the beautiful texture you established in the pencil drawing. Lighten the tree and give it a few highlights here an there and it'll be perfect. |
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tldenmark junior member
Member # Joined: 22 Feb 2002 Posts: 20 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2002 7:43 pm |
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thanks for the feedback,
kaete: great observation about the leaves. I'm considering taking this to full color (if I ever get the time to), and it will definitely have to have leaves on the ground.
wormius: yeah, the arm bugs me too. I wish I'd had time to correct that before sending it off to the client (it was 1 of 35 I did last week, ugh!). If I 'finish' this piece I'll have to make him taller.
dogfood: thanks for the feedback, that was my feeble attempt to 'stylize' the figure, sorta like the Danger Girl exaggerated proportions...without going -too- far. I'll have to work on those proportions.
zorglub: yeah, everyone seems to gravitate toward the line drawing. Definitely lost something in the value. And I thought it'd look so cool being dark and her bright. hrumph! |
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