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eyewoo · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 5:40 pm

This is a portrait of Derek Davis of Main Street Restaurants in Manayunk, Philadelphia...

An interesting aspect of this portrait was the reference photos. It was impossible to get a good shot of Derek in the actual kitchen for a number of reason, so I posed him in another spot. Then to do the portrait, I used a photo of the kitchen and the pose photo of Derek. Check the Reference Photo link below...

At this low resolution, it really looks like a photograph, but its not. There is no photographic material in the digital painting. Be sure to check out the details below...

Wacom tablet and Photoshop 6

Detail 1

Detail 2

Detail 3

Reference Photo

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CyberArtist · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 7:45 pm

None of the fire strikes me as being realistic. The color looks off on some, and it's not as opaque as it should be (especially the fire from the pan). Otherwise, excellent as always.

Other random things I noticed...

The large pot could use some work, it looks a little flat towards the bottom. The bottle he's holding looks tweaked as well. The neck appears to be off at different angle than the rest of the bottle. The green tint & shorter neck also make it look like he's holding a plastic sprite bottle vs. vinigar, oil or wine. The highlight on the metal panel on the very top center of the image appears to be too wide (along the top edge of the image). There's a white dot under the left most red handle on the stove that doesn't look right. The lower half of his right (our left) cheek is a little bright and looks a little rounder than it should be.

EviLToYLeT · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:00 am

Looking good. Perspective looks a bit off to me for some reason..

Anyway, as mentioned alread by cyberartist, there's probalems with light/fire etc. Realize that it might be hard to get it to look good and consistent with the style tehre.. but I think the problem there is it doesnt light the pan as it should and far too many stroes are used..

other than those, i really like the piece. the hand looks great and the hand with the bottle looks like its in motion

d.a.r.y.l. · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:05 am

great work. I must say that part from the pointers given earlier the violet colors on the metals seems bit odd choice. this painting is really good but its not even close to being photorealistic the way your accountant painting was.

keep it up.

jasonN · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:07 am

Hi fleabrain, all the crits were already said by Cyber Artist. I like how you've composited and adapted the references.
Is this a commissioned piece for the chef? The reason I ask is that it seems unusual to do a portrait of a restaurant chef, unless you're a family friend or something like that.

palladia mors · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 5:03 am

hi!
do you trace the outlines of the faces you paint? looks incredible, all the time.
the picture looks like a photo except that the flames look like there's spaghetti falling from the ceiling into the frying pan.

...your painting skills are fabulous, man!

Malachi Maloney · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 2:33 pm

AARRRGGGGHHH!!!!
Not a view inside a hellish kitchen!!!

Sorry, I used to be a chef.
Every since I quite that racket last year, the thought of going back inside a kitchen scares and depresses me.
So thank you fleabrain, for returning me to HELL!

Ok, now that that's over........
Good work as usual, but I agree about the flames not being right.

Oh well, you can't nail it the first time every time. =/

Go touch up those flames and you'll have another winna on your hands.

Take it easy,
Malachi

eyewoo · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 4:17 pm

palladia mors... yes I use a simple line tracing technique from my photos to set up a painting. Check out the tutorial on my website for a full explanation...

Malachi... don't you remember those wispy alcholic flame licks from pouring rum or bandy into a hot, hot pan? That's what the depiction is supposed to suggest...

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ZippZopp · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 8:52 pm

looks great! i like it...i've just started digital painting and have one quick question. in the detail shots the strokes can be seen, but in the overal shot its hard to see them....how is this achieved...what resolution did you use. I was painting something at 1600x1200...and the strokes can be seen, i didn't zoom in or anything, just painted. hope i was clear on that question

thanks

Anthony · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 10:54 pm

Great work! :] I think the flames do look too scribbly, I know the kind of yellow flame you want, but it has more solidity. Nice stuff, on your tutorial I must say I prefer this phase to the finish: http://www.eyewoo.com/show2/tut_01/tut06.jpg
But thats just my taste, nothing about what's good or not ^_^

eyewoo · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2002 7:15 am

ZippZopp... The full image that you see on screen is 1/10th the size of the original, so the rather delecate brush stroke lines get blurred together. Images like this are not really meant to be seen on screen. They are meant to be printed large.

My generally working size is about 4000 x 6000 pixels.

Anthony... thanks for the comment on the tutorial. I see what you mean by the tut06.jpg image, but that is a different style... more of a posterized style than a finished style.