[Oblagon]

i fear this doesn't make any sense.

[Anthony]

Hey Craig, in speed pics, I'm thinking in this order: Figure out form and then lighting plains, figure out general color theme, define the lightest, most saturated, and darkest areas of a picture, and make sure they're bright, saturated, and dark. Anything important I'm missing there for quickly showing something? The last one there's just for me, because I get stuck in midtones too readily.

[Red Leader]

22 min. Rubber gator on top of my monitor.

Sigh, I need to do more of these, I've never tried it before...I'm sure it would speed up & hone my regular painting.


[ November 12, 2001: Message edited by: Red Leader ]

[Shiro_tengu]

Here is a quicky in todays lunch break. Its the first little thoughts for the main character in the

cyber city project


She is supposed to be cybernetic.

[worthless_meat_sack]

Drawing first. If you get nothing else right, get the drawing at least ballpark. Whether you are using soft fuzzy areas of color or hard comic outlines, drawing is still the beast. And gesture is the most important thing about drawing, to me.

Then value. Many different ways to show form with value, but it has to be consistent. "Synthetic" lighting, like Burne Hogarth or a 3-d program has the light source as coming from the viewer. The greater the angle of the surfaces normal to the line of sight, the darker the plane. This is not the greatest or most "expressive" way to paint, but it does show form. So does plan and elevation, so that shows that form is not all we are after

In a more naturalistic style, like these sketches here, make sure that nothing in the shadow is as light as anything in the light, and nothing in the light is as dark as anything in the shadow. Read that carefully, what I am saying is contrast is your friend. Extreme examples are comic books, but you don't have to go that far. Just don't mix up light and shadow. How do you decide what is in light and shadow? You have to know form and how light works on it. No other way. You get that from life painting and drawing. Reliance on photos to learn this will mess you up down the road.

Then Color, and only then color. And just start with making it all brown or something simple. Then think about relative warms and cools. Warm on the lit side, cool on the shadow side. But it is relative, not screaming orange and ultramarine blue. Then you can get into more subtle things like local color interpreted through tinted light and reflected light, etc. But keep in mind, as you get fancy with the color, should your time be better spent on the drawing? I make this mistake more often than I like to admit

I am not saying that you should separate all these as processes. When I paint a blob that will become a head or a torso, I am thinking about it's length, direction, edge quality, value, color, etc.

I know that is a lot to think about, but you can erase that eye socket, if you analyze it for the above characteristics and it comes up lacking. Do it again, and again or cut the background back over the top, till you get something that is right. Then move on to the next shape.

[jHof]

Ugg... n/m

[ November 13, 2001: Message edited by: jHof ]

[DiXter]

Worthless meat sack: Thanks for sharing.. really!

[Mr. T]

Ditto. Very useful.

[docfunkalot]

So many styles going. well here's my contribution. Two pieces done on sunday(i think). I like the monkey more the welder elf guy(how santa's elves look in my head).

CLick here.

How do i progress beyond this point in a painting? Please critique. Although theres a lotta of paintings here...

[Anthony]

Very nice little essay Spooge! It's hilarious to me, but you and Fred and Jason are the closest I've had to art instructors, and I've never met any of you. Yeesh! :] Thanks again, some fun topics coming up, several types of cities...

[Reaper]

I reacon I can draw a little. but when it comes to painting I don't know my ***hole from my elbow. so I read this topic and I wonder where to start.

I read the John Singer Sargent document a couple of times. I like it but I dont understand it.

do you start from a pencil sketch and then work up or do you just go at it free hand? with paintbrush in hand?

I understand a sketch to be a whole heap of lines on paper as you can see from my post 'some crap by me'

I have tried to understand what you are doing by reading this post but im afraid i need it in simple to understand steps.
a) paint mid tone for the whole piece.
b) paint paint highlights for the whole piece
c) paint the shadows in the piece.

finished 30 mins expired

is that what your doing?

I think I shall practice.

[Shiro_tengu]

Thanks for the comments Craig - I am poor when it comes to thinking about lighting. I will try to impliment your advice into my illustrations.

[docfunkalot]

i pray for the day that worthless meat sack or God as i call him does a picture sequence of his work process

[Ripelly]

I gots not much but here's my sacrificed 60 minutes to this thread. Spooge, please close your eyes.... now:



Ok, you can open them again.

[Icannon]

docfunk, he has quicktimes on his webpage (or some movie format)

[Ripelly]

Ok, managed to cut it down to 45 minutes this time.



Got to do more... this speed painting is like eating pringles.

[Ripelly]

30min on the bg, 15min on the figure. That's 45min. Too much.



Hmm... ok, this is the last one. 's promise. I shouldn't be spamming others' threads.

[worthless_meat_sack]

spam away ripelly, they look nice

[Gandalf-]

Holy crap Ripelly, I just witnessed you improve 100% with each new pic I see of yours. Geez.. you're very productive, I find it inspiring.

Me draw now.

[Jezebel]

Wow.... Ripelly, those look really great. That last one you posted looks awesome as well meat_sack.

How about you two fellas look at the palette thread I posted? *grin* I just don't understand the best way to select colors for my images, argggghhhh....

http://www.sijun.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=001911

This thread is awesome... gonna have to work on another piece today. I'm in a painting mood.

[Highfive]

45 minutes is too much, he says

[ November 14, 2001: Message edited by: Highfive ]

[docfunkalot]

quote:

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Originally posted by Icannon:
docfunk, he has quicktimes on his webpage (or some movie format)

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where are they?

[Gandalf-]

Heh, it is kinda remarkable to watch people's confidence grow daily through the help received from the wiser artists around here.

I don't think this is said enough, but to everyone that takes time out to help another artist grow in any way, thank you.

Anyway, here is my quickie contribution. It took 14 minutes...



Cheers!

[Mr. T]

in goodbrush.com root. i think they are tank.mov, bridge.mov and sink.mov. they can't be reached via webpage, i got them with ftpleech.

[DiXter]

*clonk*

That was the sound of my jaw hitting the floor when I saw Spooge�s last quickie..

You just freak me out!!
That's like the most dramatic image I've seen in a long time.. The athmosphere and the dark colours, yet it sparkle with life.. Amazing. You know that's a quickie I could pay for, frame and put on my wall.

Ok, ok I know you don't like that kind of ass kissing comments, but I just had to tell you!

I wanna be a pirate when I'm looking at your pics!

[ November 15, 2001: Message edited by: DiXter ]

[WacoMonkey]

Oblagon:

Just saw your post. I'm only on the boards infrequently.

I have been both a car designer and a product designer. What do you want to know?
You can e-mail me at [email protected].

Phil.

[-Tepox-]

Wow! so many nice speed pics! =)

here is my lame speed pics.





I hesitate too much with my digital paintings. I should choose my color selections more careful. I think too early about some funky color variations and I miss "main colors" totally. Hope there is some point.

[ November 14, 2001: Message edited by: -Tepox- ]

[Golongria]

Herm...it's amazing what you can do totally unintentionally. I went against all things good in the painting world, but I actually like the mood I got from it...I think it took like 40 minutes...Sorry for the size, but at full rez (1000 px) you would cry from horror.

Great job everybody, this is a really inspiring thread!
-Matt

[Bishop_Six]

Here's some old stuff I did for that head drawing thread. I'm not really happy with them, but I haven't posted anything in a long time so....




Have anything to say? Like "you suck!" or something?

[ November 14, 2001: Message edited by: Bishop_Six ]

[Sumaleth]

Suny: yeah, I ran the 'gfx' section of ROM way back then. Always loved your pixel stuff. Good to see you're still sticking at it.

Row.