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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:02 pm     Reply with quote
OK ,I did this for a job. It took less than two days for total conception,drawing,and completion. I would have done many things different if I had the time. Now I know what's wrong with it,(I'm setting myself up here) but let's see what everyone else would do to improve on it. Bomb's away!!




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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:25 pm     Reply with quote
wow i like i like... wish we could see more high res pics from you.

Hmmm i would change 3 things ...

1. The scorpions anatomy. WEll The face that is...

2. The lighting... ONe of the problems i see with the lighting is that from what i can see there is somekind of fire going on underneath the scorpion in the hole.. Maybe the scorpion coul,d use MORE lighting from that source of fire underneath his body if you know what i mean?? or i could be totally wrong...

ANd 3 the smoke under the scorpion could use a bit more defining... or maybe it was meant to be that way ... blah ..

just my 2 cents...

GOOD work..

And is this painted with cel-vinyl? ANd can you ONLY buy cel vinyl at that store in CA or are there any other brand that can be bought in art stores?? Or can you buy tha tbrand in normal stores... It just seems to behave SOO much different than paints i have tried... id like to give cel vinyl a go...


anyways go luck to you sir.. Show us more
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:29 pm     Reply with quote
Before I tear into it, I'll say it's a heluva piece, and that if I had pulled this off in two days, I'd be quite pleased with myself. However, everyone's a critic so here's that hat.
The point and focus of this piece is obviously the scorpion. I love the color, it gives the feel that the ceiling is open, and the moon is pouring down, but the creature blends into the background a bit much. I think darkening or misting the background in the center would give a more mysterious feel while adding contrast and focus to your scorpion-thing.
I'm not sure about the fire/light on the front of the bow, is that blurred/reflected light, or is that flame?
I want more definition on the bones on the floor, they are suggestive, but distract me without adding story because I'm not sure they are bones.
Also, I'm curious why the arrow guy is left so rough? I instinctively want more detail on him.
All criticisms aside though, this post is incredible, please keep them coming...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:44 pm     Reply with quote
WOW, I just opened the same image in photoshop, and the colors apear much deeper and richer than the posted JPG. I take back my precious statement. The light blue is much subdued, and the yellow behind the scorpion enhanced, so there appears to be enough contrast. I'm now wondering if you painted it that way but the jpeg compression is just misrepresenting the colors on the web. I'm curious... Here's what photoshop saw...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 5:39 pm     Reply with quote
Good lord, this is really nice! I lub the thematic content and the way it has been depicted through your distinct style. [I wont crit it, I never crit unless I see something that really sticks out like a sore thumb, but Im looking forward to what the others have to say to this...]
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 7:45 pm     Reply with quote
im still in shock that it took two days....i have a piece that ive been working on for a week now
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 10:31 pm     Reply with quote
Pro.
Nice, nice, nice work for such a short time of two days.
The only thig I real would work on is the lighting is off a bit here and there but still ok.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 10:59 pm     Reply with quote
The painting is beautiful Pro! Very fantasy like! In my opinion, i find that there's many bright lights in this picture which makes the painting less scary. Perhaps you should reduce the surrounding light a bit and make the lights bellow the spider strongest. Sorry for my cripple English And thank you so much for helping every one in this board.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 11:47 am     Reply with quote
Ok,hit your refresh button. I had the photo too light. This should be closer to the original.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:07 pm     Reply with quote
Well..that would explain the stagey lighting! LOTR used a lot of that too, like up on the old guard tower ruins where they get attacked while camping.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:49 pm     Reply with quote
Yes, the colors are much more appropriate. For the record, I find doing a screen capture of my work in photoshop gets a much better image than the built in PS jpg exporter. OK, Dammit Greg, thats 12 posts. Now I'M curious, what did YOU see wrong with this thing???
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:53 pm     Reply with quote
johnnywum: try turning the color managment off in PS. the jpg exported pic will look exactly the same.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 3:20 pm     Reply with quote
OK now you get my opinion on this painting.

Usually I will research my jobs (time allowed) before hand. The temple is Egyptian so I should have collected enough material with images that pertain to this subject. I�m not saying photos to copy or steal; I�m saying images that give me ideas of shapes or forms that would support the idea. Then draw my own interpretation of what I can imagine would be here. Right now there is not much thought put into the background. Same goes with mister funky scorpion. I could have developed a better design instead I just started painting shapes and what appeared is what you see. You have to ask questions. What is the creature? Where does he live? Why is he colored this way? Does it help him camouflage himself in the deep chambers of the tomb when he�s hidden away? How does he protect himself? This sparks your imagination into full gear. This I did not do. I�m not saying this piece has failed because of that, I am merely suggesting ways it could have been better had I been given the required amount of time to do such a painting.

The man in the foreground is way off in anatomy! I should have definitely shot a Polaroid for this figure and really analyze the back and make sketch studies to work out the pose. But alas this poor chump was rendered the last few moments before I had to turn it in. His weapon and costume needed more thought possibly some separate sketches. I could go on and on but some art that is produced fast does have a certain freshness and appeal about it. We are not always judged by one piece of art. It is the combination of everything we do in a lifetime.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 10:02 pm     Reply with quote
everyone else has said just about everything I see about it.. except one thing.. the girl in the top left and the guy front right seem to have their clothes affected by a fairly strong wind that makes them fly toward the right yet the guy below the girl in the corner seems to have the wind affecting his clothes in the opposite direction... and dont say its because hes moving forward. The speed that hes moving forward would have to be much faster than that wind which is making the girls skirt fly so much...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2002 12:47 am     Reply with quote
Stunning work. Perhaps the lighting is kinda stagey, but mayhaps you wanted it like that, I dunno :] The soldiers on the ground seem a tad...transparent. Beautiful
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2002 12:53 am     Reply with quote
I should have posted this along with the painting. This is a concept piece for a live action stage show. Can't say where or I get my butt kicked.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2002 7:04 am     Reply with quote
wow thats awsome !
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2002 7:49 am     Reply with quote
I may be wayyy off but the guy in the staircase is a bit confusing where is his left leg , or right, ahh I just cant get a fix on the problem but somethings wrong with his legs.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2002 9:33 am     Reply with quote
what a fucked up picture...I mean, in a good way. it makes my head spin. despite the incredible business of it everything works so well together. a big carnival. wow
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