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Author   Topic : "[crit] Heroic WW2 pilot sunset scene"
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:21 pm     Reply with quote
This is an image that i'm personally rather glad with. I got lots of helpful tips and orientation at the works in progress board about the composition and values on this particular painting. I think I've learnt a lot with this one.



The black object in the front is supposed to be a sword handle...it wasn't very distingushable in the sketch but i think it's clear now.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:42 pm     Reply with quote
it's 4:41 am so i'll be short . there are some perspective problems (goggles, helmet, etc.) and why is the surface of the sea so sloped? It's almost at a 15 degree angle. The values are nice, but i'd work a bit on the color variation, it seems too monochromatic. All in all, rather nice pic.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:02 pm     Reply with quote
The sea is sloping because i didn't notice it and didn't fix it before posting the picture. I wasn't able to think of any color that wouldn't seem out of place in this picture...any tips on that?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 2:01 pm     Reply with quote
Our hero looks anorexic
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:28 pm     Reply with quote
The katana, red arm patch, and oriental eyes make the soldier looks more Japanese than American. I'm not sure, perhaps he was supposed to be Japanese? The horizon is sloped, perhaps you should create a greater distinction between the ocean and the mountains on the right (viewer's perspective). The soldier is definitely emaciated, and his expression just doesn't match the scene. Overall, the scene and lighting is good, but it's too rough a sketch.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 6:39 pm     Reply with quote


quick, unfinished, sloppy.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 8:34 pm     Reply with quote
the sea looks solid. give it some motion, throw in some big crashing waves and or just little ones, but give it something.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 3:09 am     Reply with quote
I actually thought the sea was ground and the boats were tanks. I think it's mainly because of the darkest scribbles - I thought they were bits over wreckage. Also the spray from the boat appeared as dust to me. But certainly a good pic.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 5:06 am     Reply with quote
hey you forgot thAT every so called "hero" must be an US dude

beside of this the pics looks not bad.
the background and the colours are great ... but the rest isnt really optimal.
those planes and ships looks more like a painting of a child.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 10:43 am     Reply with quote
Try putting some more splashes, maybe even a big wave crashing into the nearer of the two boats. That should relay the fact that it's water better than the current choppy waves you have running through the whole part of the water. Maybe try to get some more whites in the water: the bubbly water you can get from waves and stuff. Other than that, looks pretty good. I like the lighting and the color scheme.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 2:01 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for the comments.

bld: hmm. Maybe he hasn't eaten enough? I really didn't mean to make him look so slim don't know why it happened but it isn't the first time. Thanks.

Arpan: Not all heroes are american This guy's fighting on the losing side, he's grim...c'mon. I really don't have a clue on how to make the water look like water...I wasn't even planning on putting this much detail into it until lazydead made a quick scribble to help me with the values. The water you see here is somewhat similar to the water from that scribble.

Mr.T: That looks great, I like the color on the scarf. I don't think he has that oriental look that i was going for but it's really well done. The use of larger brushes and the wider range of color really gives it more life.

The_monkey: That's a good idea. I don't know if i can pull it off though.

Switch: Thanks. Well, now that I look at it that way it does look a little like some desert operation.

xN^md: You're insane - It'd make more (or less) sense to make him a brazilian in that case :P Thanks for the critique though. I didn't want to draw too much attention away from the "hero" but i see your point.

CleMinski: Thanks, I wish I had added a little blue though. These are, to tell the truth, my first attempt at painting waves. Natural elements are hard to get away with cheaply I guess. :P
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