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the_monkey · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:16 pm

its so well done, absolutly wonderful.

you=my hero.

ftgjcf · member Member # Joined: 13 Apr 2000 Posts: 184

very nice work! I love the details! particulary the frosted landscape infront of the castle is awesome!
I hate to say this but i liked the first ver better.. the shape of a sleeping person was brilliant (imho)
My next crit would be the tree. Or rather its leafs. looks strange

excellent stuff! keep it up

audacity10 · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:30 pm

That is so imaginative. You've just made my recent entry look quite bland! No faults with this - keep up the good work.

fellipe · junior member Member # Joined: 14 Nov 2001 Posts: 43

yes..wonderfull job..fantasy like, but also realistic..and the guy reading a book..looks like hes reading a tolkian book at his bedroom, but imagining all the landscape at the same time...wonderfull job!

Indian_Prophet · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2001 2:47 pm

Is there hidden stuff in the willow? Or am I seeing things...

if I were you, I would see about selling this. Very talented artist.

Switch · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2001 5:01 pm

Only thing that looks wrong is the leafy part of the tree. The whole top part needs more form. The leaves should get darker as they go further to the left. It looks flat and kinda pasted on. Apart from that everything is perfect. I really like it.

DiXter · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2001 5:32 pm

wow that made such a big difference..
the warm colours made it to a great piece..

thumbs up!

[ December 22, 2001: Message edited by: DiXter ]

grasshoppa · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2001 5:46 pm

I remeber when you posted the first image and I liked it, but it lacked emotion and personality. Now it is a really beautiful(sp?) piece with plenty of emotion. Great Job!! I luv it.

FireFry · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2001 5:52 pm

*jaw drops to the floor*

I really like the improvements you incorporated into this piece. Classic material right here

Kamal · member Member # Joined: 21 Nov 2001 Posts: 143

COOL! I just love this forum. It's a great source for honest and well thought feedback.

1)the_monkey: Thanks man! I don't know about the hero part though.

2)geelimp: Thanks geelimp. I was kind of crushed to hear that you liked the first one more than the revised one but at the same time it made me feel good because that's the one I originally came up with and I'm still somewhat attached to the idea of being able to see only the person's back in sillouett. So thanks for your honest feedback.

3) audacity10: Thanks for the encouragement!

4) Fellipe: Nice observation. It's always nice to hear the different things people get out of an image.

5) Indian_Prophet: Thanks! Yeah, it'd be cool if I could sell prints of my work. Maybe wizards of the coast might be interested. No, the stuff you're seeing in the willow are probably the branches behind the leaves.

6) Switch: Thanks for the feedback on the leaves. I'll see what I can do.

7) Dixter: COOL! thanks Man!

8) grasshoppa: Hey, Cool! I'm glad you like the revised version better.

9) Wow! thanks for the complement.

Ian Jones · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2001 12:10 am

very cool. Love the atmosphere. The best word I can find to describe this picture is.

"CAPTIVATING"

Kamal · member Member # Joined: 21 Nov 2001 Posts: 143

Hi All,

I posted this image before and got a lot of great feedback. I've taken that feedback and put a lot of more work into this image. I thought it deserved a new post. So here it is, please let me know what you think.

If you want to see what the first one looked like, paste this address into your explorer:
http://www.kamalsiegel.com/Images/FORUMS/MEDI_FINAL.jpg

[ December 22, 2001: Message edited by: Kamal ]

[ December 22, 2001: Message edited by: Kamal ]

lookitsfrank · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2001 4:31 pm

man! I love this forum! heh. wonderful pic and a vast improvement over the previous. It defineately (sp?) tells a story. noone, however, has asked the most important question. what book is he reading? and what is he doing up there? heh.

[666]Flat · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2001 4:39 pm

1337 AS HELL

gLitterbug · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2001 5:58 pm

Hi Kamal!

I have to say that this is one of the absolutely best painted images I�ve seen in recent times. I makes very good use of colors and is so beautiful to look at.

Regarding the old version, to me those drawings look kinda before-after drawings. My imagination really gets stimulated by that pic. I imagine this to be the first pic to look at, Him reading his fantasy book and another Version done like the old one but with something happening with the castle, like a magical gate opening and troops or creatures coming out while he�s asleep. Looking at the 2 different versions you did, one can really see how to set nice focal points.

Continue posting such excellent work!

Kamal · member Member # Joined: 21 Nov 2001 Posts: 143

Ian Jones: That's one of the best complements an artist could get. Now a days with people having such short attention spans, being able to captivate someone with a still image is even harder. Thanks

Lookitsfrank: Glad you like it

Actually I don't want to tell you what book he's reading, even though I already know what it is. That should be something left up to the viewer to decide. It makes the painting that much more unique for each person.
I'm attaching a zoom in shot so you can see the book up close and see if you can see what it says or, even better, imaging what it says.

666: why 1337?

glitterbug: Wow! That's quite a compliment. Thanks a lot!

I like how you've decided to put both images together as a before and after. You're right, they do go together nicely.

Peon · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2001 11:25 pm

Awsome picture.

What I got from it is simular to what fellipe said.
To me it's a guy that went bush walking and found somewhere to set up camp. As he reads the book, little does he know the world he is imagning is coming to life around him.
Or the foreground part of the picture is what is in reality, and the background is his imagination..
Wonder if anybody got somthing compelety different from it??

I love the up close details of this image btw. What did you use to create it??

Malachi Maloney · Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2001 1:22 am

Great improvements Kamal.

The tree's leaves still bug me a little, but I'll get over it. The guy by the fire is brilliance.
You get a thumbs up from me.

Take it easy,
Malachi

Soulfuct · Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2001 1:53 am

ummmmm....what can i add other than WOW?

CyberArtist · Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2001 3:59 am

The clearing in front of the in the lowest portion of the right, behind the blurred foreground rock, draws my eye unwantedly. It's almost too flat there, even with the mild texture it's been given, next to the exquisitly detailed surrouding looks almost like an unfinished portion of the image.

Other than that, there's not much I can say that hasn't been already. Great work.

Probotech · Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2001 5:15 am

Holy mother!
That is some awesome work!
It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling all over.

I really like the foreground/background focus you got in it..also that detail shot, OMG i never thougth it was so well done. You should post a full res version or atleast a bigger one. The details are amazing!

Maxi Milian · Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2001 3:57 pm

This is actually my first post here, and im no expert in drawing technique or anything like that, but i have a lot of opinions on what i like and what i dont. The only reason i am on this forum is because i enjoy looking at all the great work all you people do here

I think that picture is absolutely AWSOME!!!
When i first saw it, i was kinda looking for a giant dragon in the picture for some unknown reason

I really was looking for a giant black dragon in front of the moon.

I sound crazy dont i?

Really nice work!!!

J-D Leon · Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2001 9:49 pm

crazy...

alot of detail...

how many hour did that take u?

do u have to draw that much detail?
i mean, when u reduce the size. no body even notice it for example the tree's trunk and grass

Kamal · member Member # Joined: 21 Nov 2001 Posts: 143

Peon: Awesome! I think that's an awesome interpretation of the image. Makes me wish that's what I had in mind when I created it.
To answer your question: I used a pencil and Photoshop to make this image. I began by illustrating it all in pencil as best I could and then scanning the pencil illustraiton into Photoshop and coloring it and ovcourse adding extra details.

Malachi:Thanks for the thumbs up!

Yeah, the leaves aren't quite there yet.

Soulfuct:

Thanks.

CyberArtist: Thanks for the feedback. I'll see what I can do with that portion of the painting.

Halogenic: COOL! warm fuzzy feeling is good!

Maxi Milian: It's an honor to be part of your first post. Thanks for the high praise.

JD Leon: Yeah, crazy indeed. It took many hours, I lost count. That's true, on a monitor nobody can notice the extra details, but when I print this baby out on my nice Inkjet printer on nice glossy photo paper, the details can be seen clearly and all that extra work pays off. That's why I added so much detail.

Thanks everybody for your great feedback.

Highfive · Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2001 3:55 am

The replies haven't stopped yet, Kamal!

Like everyone else says, it's just unbelievable! The amount of detail you've put into this picture - you could write a documentary about it! It's the most enchanting work I've seen yet.

I think the only thing that looks off is the campfire, as it's all bright yellow right to the edges where the rocks are. It would look better if the flames had orange edges to them and if they rose only from the glowing embers of the logs in the middle. It would be pretty hard to get enough wood to have flames rising from every inch inside the rock circle. You only notice this when you look at it for the eleventh time, though, which isn't uncommon!

Leo · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 3:32 am

Very nice painting. Good use of color and mood.

-leo

topeira · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 1:49 pm

wow! great!! i remember the first ver when u posted it before. i like this one better. i LOVE the way the worm colors bring out the scene on the left. good work.

also good thing u posted this one as a new thread instead of adding it to the older thread or we would have missed it.

awsome job.

ps - ppl told u bout this - the leaves on the tree, man. they are too stright. even now, yea.