[Art Addiction]

I am VERY proud of this one!!! Eight hours worth of work in Photoshop total.
http://www.digidreams-studios.com/images/portrait-finished3.jpg

And of course, the photo reference:
http://www.britneyspears.com/gallery/index.php?g=red&img=02

I know it's Britney, but I wanted to do a celebrity portrait and I like painting beautiful women.

[Sumaleth]

You need to concentrate on proportions a bit more, especially when painting well known faces. To the casual observer your painting looks nothing like Britney, but it's just a matter of working at it and learning what it is about faces that people recognize.

Row.

[Lihamyrsky]

something here just doesn't feel right

[horstenpeter]

She looks like she's balding. Hairs should start earlier.

[delovega2]

hey man, nice pic... I like it.
Don't be discouraged by what people say,
if anything use it to your advantage.

Remember... no one is perfect (take a look
at my stuff for sheesh sakes!) it's not
about being perfect, it's about doing what
you enjoy and for doing that my friend,
you get good points in my books.

GREAT WORK! you keep it up and i'll keep
lookin at it!

Take care.

[Awetopsy]

Hm, I saw an earlier version of this same pic before soemwhere, I think you have improved it quite a bit. My only suggestion is that you need to work on facial anotomy some. but your colors and lighting are fairly good.

keep at it. You're doing fine.

[Mb]

Great improvement over your last attempt. Here are my suggestions for anatomy, although I'm sure there are some I'm missing.

1. The face overall is too wide. Just by making it narrower using transform, it looks better, even though the nose and mouth are off now. Also pay attention to subteties in the face shape, they make a big difference in the likeness.

2. Her left eye whould be tucked in closer to the nose. Pay closer attention to the shape of the eyebrow above it, too.

3. Iris/pupil in both are too big.

4. There are lost of small things that you could do to make the likeness better. Look at the shape of the eyes again, especially her left. Look at the shading (makeup?) above her right eye.

5. Increase contrast in the shading of the cheeckbones and jawbone, again paying close attention to the shape of Britney's face.

Whew, that tired me out...hope it was helpful

[Gandalf-]

delovega,

Sumaleth gave a quality crit. He addressed REAL issues in the piece and he certainly wasn't rude about it. People come here looking to get tips exactly like that from artists exactly like Sumaleth in hopes of progressing in their work. After all, that WAS the point of these forums to begin with. It is this type of thing that Sijun needs a lot MORE of.

I for one am sick of opening a thread and seeing nothing but:

"d00d y0u r0X!"
"Great work."
"Cool!"
"enormous nads" ..hehe, synj.

Anyway, I'm sure Sumaleth's intent was purely positive, don't make it seem like he was attacking the artist, dude.

[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: Corn Pops ]

[Art Addiction]

Thanks to everyone for their comments. This is why I like this forum -- great crits without resorting to the usual "Awesome!" or "That sucks" mentality. Well...in my threads, anyways.

Now to find someone else to paint!

[delovega2]

Corn Pops > Look bub, I gave him a bit of encouragement. I find that it is better to give encouragement than argue over stupid little inconsistancies in artworks. The fact that the kid took the opprotunity to develop his skill to any state is a good thing.

What I see on this board is too much of the following crap...

"Her nose seems to be 1/100th of a millimeter too far to the left"

"Her head seems to be a little too big"

"Her nostril is drooping"

"Her eyes don't look real"

and more dumb crap.

Listen, and this is a note to all of you who post on this board. Don't you forget what the hell art is all about. It's not about getting things EXACTLY RIGHT! dammit, sometimes people get me really pissed. Art is ART no matter what you do, van-goh (however you spell his name right) used a lot of abstraction to fulfil his artistic desires. There shouldn't be any sort of comments regarding "her left eye is one millimeter too long and her right one is too wide" crap, it doesn't make sense. That may be a valid point, but it doesn't really need to be said.

The artist will develop their skill in time, and notice their own inconsistancies. Each artist has their own flaws, and no matter what any of you say -- NO ARTIST WILL EVER BE PERFECT. No artistic piece will EVER be finished, or EVER be PERFECT. You must realize that.

I'd much rather have people come on here and talk about what they LIKE in a piece thereby giving the artist something of an enocouragement rather than being stupid over little things. I have seen other artists quite literally give up because they can't take what people say about their work. It's not fair to spend 8+ hours on something, put your heart and soul into it and find that someone makes a stupid comment like "that guys left shoulder seems to be a little bit bigger than his right one" -- again, valid point as it may be... it make MORE sense to give POSITIVE cit, then the artist will be more inclined to take what the people like, and elaborate on it.

I don't mean anything by what I say except that I hope everyone can stay more on the side of positive crit rather than picking out the smallest little things. It's pointless.

Anyway... i'm done, this is taking up too many lines. Take care, and keep up the good work everyone.

[delovega2]

By the way, maybe I should offer further crit, based on what i've said in the above post.

I happen to like his sense of color, it appears that the piece is very well toned and not over saturated. I like how he pays good attention to eye detail. He has obviously spent alot of time with the hair, and hair is a nightmare sometimes... it's great. The use of soft blends for her skin is a good touch, and i'm suprised that he didn't over saturate like MOST people do.

If you want to know what I don't like, it's nothing. I think the attempt to recreate and draw this piece was very honest and genuine.
Though the artist has his flaws (which every one of us does) I will leave it up to him to allow his senses to further develop.

I am seriously looking forward to seeing more of this guys work. It's great. Once he get's his style and senses finely tuned i'm sure he will be a kin to the likes of many great artists.

[Mb]

Well, I assume that that whole rant was directed at me, so a quick reply is in order...

People come here to get critiques and advice. They don't just want to know what is good, they want to know what is bad so they have more direction for their own improvement. (Case in point: "Thanks to everyone for their comments. This is why I like this forum -- great crits...") He was obviously going for a likeness of Britney Spears, so I gave him some small changes he could make to improve his painting, nothing more. Get off your soapbox.

[Gandalf-]

Wow, what a load of bullshit.

Are you even aware of what you are arguing anymore?

People make art because they like to. It satisfies them. Agreed.

PEOPLE DON'T POST THAT ARTWORK ON A FORUM FOR CRITIQUE IF THEY JUST WANT TO LOOK AT THEIR PRETTY PICTURE ON THE WALL.

Regardless of whatever it is you think; people want to improve their skills if they willingly come here, post their art, and ask for help. It seems to me that Art Addiction has no problem at all with what was said, and confirmed himself exactly what I was leaning towards. Somehow, you've decided to take this personally when the artist in question didn't even consider it. Maybe it is you that has some confidence issues with your work. Maybe you've had bad experiences with people being too hard on your stuff when that wasn't what you were looking for. That certainly doesn't mean you have to impose that on all of us.

Read the title at the top of your screen. It says: "Gallery/Finished Work - Showcase final images & critique". It doesn't say: "Gallery/Finished Work - Showcase final images and respond ONLY with empty compliments!"

Ugh. If you're going to argue something with such passion, you might want to consider if what you are arguing actually makes sense. Apparently you just like to get angry and upset for no real reason at all.

[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: Corn Pops ]

[edible snowman]

it might be helpful when you're doing such copies of photos to think more about why you're doing what you're doing instead of copying shapes. this way you get a sense of the underlying structure so you can apply it to other things after you have sufficiently practiced. i dont mean to necessarily say you are not already doing this, i was just mentioning it because i don't really get the feeling that you did in this painting.

[Art Addiction]

Wow...I feel special.

Naah, just kidding. I wasn't offended at all by any of the crits. No need to argue about something that isn't warranted. delovega -- I really appreciate your comments above. Thank you! Oh, and just so that there isn't any confusion...I'm 22.

[delovega2]

"Wow, what a load of bullshit."

Cornpops> Common now, are you still arguing about that? who cares what I said, or you said. Just shut up and draw something. I have better things to do than come in here and argue with you about the justification of posting your/my comments on other peoples artwork. I'll say what I damn well please, it's a free country!

Art Addiction> No problem, just trying to offer support bub. Keep it up, let me know when your next piece is ready to view!

Everyone Else> Keep up the good work! I love what i'm seeing here, it's encouraging.

[delovega2]

P.S.

MB > No my "rant" was not directed at you.
actually, it wasn't even directed at anyone in particular, just a suggestion is all. Being positive about what people are trying to create just helps people want to develop their skill.

I guess I should clear up that I didn't mean that NEGATIVE commentary wasn't a good thing, just that it could surely be handled a little more maturely.

Anyway, that's enough commenting out of me on this topic, let's move on shall we?

[oscar]

I think you did a good job man. Admittedly, I thought it was this girl from Ally McBeal at first glance, so it doesn't resemble much to the reference image. But there's nothing wrong with that... Practice makes prefect, and you're doing a heck of a job practicing!

Practical tip: Blend the outline of the lips (especially both ends of the lower lip) in with the skin, so it won't look "pasted on".

Don't mind the fight that's going on. It's all bull. People are entitled to their own opinions, if we weren't this threads would say: "Good job" 50 times. So much for constructive critisism, eh?

Keep it up mate!

[Trenks]

quote:

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Originally posted by delovega2:
*delovega2 backtracking into oblivion*

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brilliant. i especially liked the "are you still arguing about that" comment, apparently subjects can't be debated anymore for more than a day. nicely done delovega2, nicely done. you deserve a cookie.

anyway, great stuff art addiction. yeah, your face anatomy could use a little work, but otherwise, good times. keep it up.

[Sumaleth]

**no more ranting bs - only post here from now on if it's on the subject of the image**

Row.

[ December 21, 2001: Message edited by: Sumaleth ]

[J-D Leon]

althought i never use tablet before.
but if i have one. i would think that i can do better than that.

hey man. pratice....
that what other good artist told me

[Art Addiction]

Argh...okay...while I appreciate the number of posts that have gathered in this thread, I feel it's time to point to a couple new portraits I've done. Okay?

There have been two threads since this one...

THIS ONE:
http://www.sijun.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=005827

And, of course, my most recent one:
http://www.sijun.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=005959

Okay?

[Indian_Prophet]

I agree with both sides on this one. Critique is good, and encouragement should follow.
concerning your art, you have done a good job of detailing to make it nice work, but I would suggest not labeling these of who the person is. Drawing portraits goes several ways...either you're trying to draw the person exact or you're not. If you are trying to them exact, they need work. If you are not trying to draw them exact, these are great work. On the blond, the hand is the only thing sticking out bad to me. I would start all over on the hand. Keep it up and take things in stride.
Peace

[Light]

This is quite good work. Id try to sharpen it a bit and add a little more shading.

Theres a strong resamblance to the original as well.