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Enayla
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 8:50 am     Reply with quote
Well, I've been experimenting a lot with new styles, lately. Just for the sake of fun. I don't know why, though, since I always liked my old style... I guess it's just a matter of me wanting to branch out a little.

Some people really like these new styles, but I received a letter from someone suggesting that I get back to what I know. That it is better to stick to one way of drawing and work to perfect that, instead of trying new things. I'm not so sure. I think it's good to develop in a myriad of different ways.

Anyway... enough talking. I just wanted to speak my thoughts on the matter, here are the pictures.

Feathered Gold



Princess


Including a few closeups for the latter:






(Edit) Almost forgot... I started experimenting with these three images
Gamble, Saga and Key and then kind of liked it so much that I continued in the same theme...

[ December 16, 2001: Message edited by: Enayla ]
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Mortis
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 9:02 am     Reply with quote
You rarely have the opportunity to see something this beautiful... I am glad I have the chance.
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Zorglub
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 9:36 am     Reply with quote
Yikes I love the design of the wings in the first pic and the subtle rendering of that silky material in the second one.
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JohnC
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 9:42 am     Reply with quote
Just beautiful. Youre work is stunning.

Do you have any tutorials on how you work? I would love to try them out.

I still am having trouble figureing out how to paint good in painter.

ANy tips on how you work? How long have you been painting? Your work just blows me away!

Looking forward to more.
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Sumaleth
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:34 am     Reply with quote
Wow, cool stuff.

What sort of pictures do you use for reference? Particularly for the figures.

Row.

[ December 16, 2001: Message edited by: Sumaleth ]
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Cos
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:38 am     Reply with quote
Beautiful work Enayla, you're getting better and better

Not sure if you wanted crits but just something I noticed on that first pic. The belly button doesn't seem to be centred with the allignment of the body as its twisting, think it should move more to the right (her left) and a touch lower.

Also the left arm on the second pic seems a little shapeless, wrist seems very thick and fingers too short.

They're great as they are anyhow but thought I'd point them out, incase you were still planning on working on these.

[ December 16, 2001: Message edited by: Cos ]
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Anthony
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:41 am     Reply with quote
I think most of us draw because we enjoy it. If you enjoy learning new styles amd techniques(I know I do), then by all means do so. Only ever doing one art style is like only ever doing one martial art style-you may have your main one, but there's something to learn in each.
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wootkoos
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:46 am     Reply with quote
I rarely post due to my work schedule but I just had to squeeze in a few lines.

Your attention to detail is extrodinary! I've always enjoyed your artwork, Enayla
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lel
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:52 am     Reply with quote
DO continue down this track!
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tek9z
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:56 am     Reply with quote

very beautiful delicate work!
way to go!
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Francis
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 11:05 am     Reply with quote
Wow that is great - I love the second image and all the detail shots.
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sandhu
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 11:09 am     Reply with quote
*drooling*
those're freakin awesome. incredible textures on the dress, damn your patience is humbling. i dunno about your old style but i guess there's nothing wrong with expanding/improving style.
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A. Mount
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 11:09 am     Reply with quote
Honey, you've never done better work.

Talk to you soon.
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Quasar
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 11:42 am     Reply with quote
E. it seems to me that you should do whatever makes you happy and inspires you and if that means trying new things then that is what it means. However it does seem to me that if someone wanted to persue a career in freelance it would be better to be masterful at a certain style. These are my to fav paintings by you by the way!!!
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replicant
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 11:43 am     Reply with quote
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Beautiful, That second image is almost photo realistic. Painter or Photoshop?

Once again.. Amazing.. Now I need to dig through to find your other stuff.

replicant
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kombosagi
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 3:12 pm     Reply with quote
I say do what you enjoy, it'll show. And these are great.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 4:40 pm     Reply with quote
wow I really love the first one. Love the way the wings are lighting the body!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 5:09 pm     Reply with quote
If this is the result when you experiment, I don't see how anyone can tell you to stop. I definitely like the more refined style, and I think you should keep doing whatever you feel like doing, because there's always someone who's going to love it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 5:16 pm     Reply with quote
my my my, ......*loses breath*..... these are pretty stunning!

the borders really set off both the paintings
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Blitz
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 6:39 pm     Reply with quote
Dina bilder �r s� fantastiska.
Jag �r ett stort fan av din konst. Och det kommer jag alltid vara.
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DiXter
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 6:53 pm     Reply with quote
whaaat? Blitz, I didn't know you knew swedish.. this is too Wierd..


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pixualize
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 6:55 pm     Reply with quote
Wow - great! Maybe it's me but it still lloks like your stuff. If I'd seen it without a caption I would have probably one or two names spring to mind. I think it maybe a different subject matter that may seem different. Most of your other portrait images seem very focused on the faces, which, as always are exceptional! In these images there seems to be a bit of a different focus.

Very cool. Any chance the angel may be offered as a print?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 7:15 pm     Reply with quote
Wow, they are so beautiful, lovely work as usual i hope you dont mind me stealing your princess painting for my wallpaper Wonderful paintings.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 7:54 pm     Reply with quote
As always I'm speachless with astonishment.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2001 8:24 pm     Reply with quote
WOW! those are simply stunning.

Enayla, I think you are even better since I last saw an image from you. I reckon that may have something to do with your experimentation, because you probably enjoy it a bit more, and that is reflected in the quality of these pictures.

How long did these take you? I am interested in the process, the way you draw shapes then refine them, sorta like making a blob first then shaping it with background and foreground... is that what you do? Sounds like spooge's method. He says he can't draw good lines with a Wacom...
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Enayla
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2001 12:13 am     Reply with quote
Mortis: *smiles* Thank you for your kind compliment.
Zorglub: That’s very nice to hear =) I guess those are really my favourite parts, too. Though in the second image, the position of her mouth really took the longest.
JohnC: I only have some old tutorials, on how to draw hair, and of how to draw mouths... but I don’t even think I have them online now. Though I work both in Painter and Photoshop, these two images were drawn in photoshop. As to how I work...
I always start working with big blotches of colour. That way, I tend to get the colours and the composition down (as well as the mood) before narrowing down to details. I work myself down to details. Shape by shape. Usually starting with the face, going to the hands, the upper body, the hair... The eyes I draw in at a slightly early stage because they give direction to the entire image. That’s all the advice I can give you, but most people are usually more comfortable with a very nice sketch at first. I’m not. Can’t really say how long I’ve been painting =) Those of us who do paint, haven’t we been at it since we were children?
Sumaleth: Thanks =) The references are a wild mix of paper ads, online pictures of people, pictures taken with my webcam (for hands if the position is difficult – I have no mirrors nearby the computer so that makes it easier). I try to use references very loosely, and to pick the lighting out of my imagination rather than from a photo.
Cos: Thank you =) And you’re absolutely right about the crits. I think I will work more on the Princess image, because I really feel for that one. *scribbles down notes, murmuring to herself*... too thick wrist...
Anthony: *grins* That’s very well said. I might have to quote you on that ;]
Wootkoos: Thank you very much =)
Lel: Sure thing ;]
Tek9z: Thankee =)
Francis: Thank you. I’m actually more fond of the second one, myself. Maybe because I tried to get it right (with several failed attempts) for days.
sandhu: Thanks =) And I gotcha, expand and experiment. Kind of how I feel, too.
A.Mount: I’m very glad to hear you say that =)
Quasar: Thank you. For both the thought, and the compliment.
Replicant: These two are photoshop, actually. I’ve only got Painter at work. Thanks =)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2001 12:14 am     Reply with quote
wow. these are very lovely. can't really find anything to crit though sorry.

personaly i think sticking with "what you know" and not branching out and trying new things is the worst advice you can give an artist. i say keep doing new things. it will only improve to your style and skill. it's always good to keep growing with your art.

anyways i probably just stated the obvious, but i felt the need to state my opinion
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2001 12:21 am     Reply with quote
I definitely think you should experiment. From what I've learned, you can learn _a lot_ from working with different styles and mediums. I've been playing with markers lately. They are fun and erotic.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2001 12:33 am     Reply with quote
Wow. That robin is so precious. The detail you put into your fabric is so awe-inspiring. It seems that every stroke you make is done with the goal of simply creating something that is beautiful; and it shows in the finished piece. I don't think I know of another artist that creates anything more beautiful than what I see from you.

As always, I am humbled.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2001 1:18 am     Reply with quote
great work as always!
I've seen a lot of your work and I just don't
think this is a 360 degree change. I'd call
it a 20% change.. I like it just as much as
all your other beautiful works of art.
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