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Jucas member
Member # Joined: 14 Jan 2001 Posts: 387 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2001 2:00 pm |
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And another
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worthless_meat_sack member
Member # Joined: 29 May 2000 Posts: 141
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2001 6:21 pm |
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I am really trying to get better this has never been my strong suit, but what i learn in doing it is invaluble. It is just that the finished product is suitable for the bird cage. But that ok, it's like going to the gym.
In a way though I am glad because as an illustrator I have found a use for these excercises. I think I have always had a secret fear that life drawing would become the end of the art, that I would be unable to abstract what I learn from it and do something more creative. Just doing life drawing and painting as an end in itself seems a little narrow to me.
That is just my own warped view, I know there are people that look at it as the highest form of art, and I can absolutely see that point of view.
There is a great here on Maui called Hui Noeau. It is the Baldwin plantation house (the pineapple baron's personal house) that has been repurposed as an art haven. The facilities are not the greatest yet, no lights, etc, but it is better than nothing. I have a 1600 sq foot studio now where I can have my own sessions.
edit-Thanks to everyone for posting your drawings, I have really enjoyed looking at them!
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Vyle member
Member # Joined: 03 Aug 2001 Posts: 296 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2001 9:43 pm |
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Nice topic!
Some sketches done last summer when we still had time to practice sketching at work....
David http://www.telinco.co.uk/deel99/ |
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catnip member
Member # Joined: 26 Mar 2001 Posts: 100 Location: boston, mass. usa
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 3:33 am |
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Hi!
U R so talented!!! Very few people can draw
the human body as beautiful as you do!
Show us more please... |
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Duracel member
Member # Joined: 08 Mar 2001 Posts: 910 Location: Germany - near Minster
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 8:27 am |
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Im a fan of Joachim's studies, they are great and im going to practise more to become as good ... sometime |
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shahar2k member
Member # Joined: 01 Jun 2000 Posts: 867 Location: Oak Park CA USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 10:26 am |
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oh man, silber, I love those figures, you can just feel the surface even in the short gesture drawings, especially like how you go across the figure as opposed to around it like many do...
oh and spooge, if you're throwing them away... I have a final in my life drawing class coming up! |
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silber member
Member # Joined: 15 Jul 2000 Posts: 642 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:29 am |
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here are some more
worthless_meat_sack: you have BIKK shoes?right?
eheh I often had this footsteps on my drawings too until I bought a sketch book instead of loose papers.
joachim: thanks for posting the 15 min ones- you are so damn fast-great work
the brat great do you have more?-cmon scanning isn't that bad
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silber member
Member # Joined: 15 Jul 2000 Posts: 642 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:30 am |
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wasn't allowed to post more in one post
uhhm I was kinda in the mood:
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Khaifin member
Member # Joined: 19 Nov 2001 Posts: 109 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:36 am |
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big man with boobies!!111 o_0
nice nice ncei
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silber member
Member # Joined: 15 Jul 2000 Posts: 642 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:01 pm |
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Snorkles :
no way! draw anything around you from apples to skycrapers
-figure drawing is just one part of the whole thing though IMHO the most funny one to do.
drawing from life helps improving doesn't matter what you draw
oh you want to draw people and don't have a model? -keep in mind that you have at least a miror at home |
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The Brat junior member
Member # Joined: 13 Jul 2001 Posts: 36 Location: Nowheresville, Ontario
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 3:10 pm |
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silber: I have more, but no time to scan 'em.
There's a bit of other life-type-drawing on my site, but it's of animals, not people.. |
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Liser Studios member
Member # Joined: 14 Oct 2001 Posts: 215 Location: Butler, PA
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 3:58 pm |
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hey, i figured it'd be proper to post this under this topic
i'm only 17 and in high school
i've been studying Burne Hogarths books lately (last few months), and I have been wanting to do actual live figure drawings
when i actually do the figure drawings what should i do? some gesture drawings, then a longer sketch (like a 20 min sketch) or what?
i've got my g/f to pose for me twice, but when i ask her to pose she'll put on sweat shirts and pants or something along those line. i'm going to try to get her to wear a swim suit or a tighter tank top and shorts.
also, when i do the actual figure drawings, should i use the techniques i've picked up from Burne's books? or should i only use his techniques when drawing from imagination? |
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c member
Member # Joined: 23 Oct 2000 Posts: 230 Location: norwalk, ca
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 5:27 pm |
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look for a life drawing class. if you have a community college close to you, that's a good way to go about it.
there are a lot of anti-hogarth people out there, but i personally enjoy his line of books. they clarify certain things that would otherwise be murky in drier anatomy texts. just remember not do bust out a superhero pose every time, go with what you see before you and supplement it with whatever tools at hand. hogarth stuff, anatomy stuff, whatever. |
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Snorkles member
Member # Joined: 05 Nov 2001 Posts: 217 Location: Uppsala, Sweden
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 12:55 am |
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Really awsome all of them. I suck. Is painting off models the only way to learn? Don�t have any models at home... |
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silber member
Member # Joined: 15 Jul 2000 Posts: 642 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 5:51 am |
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Liser Studios:
just draw your gf while she is watching tv or reading a book;eating....etc
the first thing that's important at the beginning is that you keep the proportions right-so it doesn't matter if she wear clothes(besides that clothes are a nice thing to draw )
no need to draw hands and face exactly(<--it's even better to left the face away,
though one should still see in what direction she is looking )
to get started I prefer(others don't)
some quick poses about 3-5 min to loosen up your stroke (proper english?)
and than go longer poses 10-15min
IMO 2 hours of drawing are a good time
because the first hour one need to warm up completly after the second hour one become tired
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Aiko Ito member
Member # Joined: 05 Feb 2000 Posts: 63 Location: Vancouver BC
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 2:09 pm |
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This ones kinda old, first year in college
photo reference used for this one
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worthless_meat_sack member
Member # Joined: 29 May 2000 Posts: 141
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 2:12 pm |
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I had several different classes at the beginning of AC, and all taught totally different approaches to figure drawing. It was really confusing.
Study all highly developed stylizations of the figure, they all refer to the same structure, and it is fascinating seeing the differences in interpretation.
I think that the bias against Hogarth is either the comic (guilt by association) or the mechanical feel of his drawing. It is not what the more sensitive types call "expressive." Hehe...
I had his class. He was a character. His personality might have something to do with it among people who knew him. He thought quite a bit of his accomplishments, and had VERY strong and bizarre opinions on art and life in general. The morning was spent with him either doing a drawing from scratch, or rambling on about art, and the afternoons were drawing from the model. He would have us start the body by drawing a peanut shape, and adding legs and arms and head. I remember him yelling "draw a peanut! Come on, do it! You know how to draw a peanut, don't you?!???"
There are certain schools that have been around a long time, and they seem to required a few generations to really mature, or even mutate into something else.
My only general advice (look whos talking, mr master drawer here.) is to be careful of imitating a highly developed style at the beginning. It can take you over before you have learned basics well enough. The way say, Disney, artist draw is beautiful and has been very highly refined over the years. You might be tempted to "draw like Disney" (look at the art of ____ Disney movie books). Keep in mind if you were to be taught that style by Disney animators who know what they are doing, they would teach you structure first, and leave the stylizations for later. There is real danger in imitation of the surface effects of this, or any other style.
So learn a structural drawing style first! And whatever you do, don't get into a style that depends of rendering halftones or just rendering in general. Learn structure first!
This has been a hole in my education, and only now do I know enough to realize what should have been different in my earlier development. Don't make the same mistake. |
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frostfyre member
Member # Joined: 20 Feb 2001 Posts: 133 Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 2:22 pm |
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Coming late to the party, but I enjoyed everyone else's work so much, I though I'd share these. I'm not doing nearly as much of this as I should.
These are 2 minute poses, in pen. Brush pen used for tone.
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februus junior member
Member # Joined: 20 Nov 2001 Posts: 1 Location: lost highway, wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 11:28 pm |
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nude sketch
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Morbid Guy member
Member # Joined: 19 Oct 2000 Posts: 277 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2001 10:11 pm |
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Hey, I love these kinda threads! Nice one Joachim ;P Really nice to see all the different styles, some really great work here. I need to scan some stuff up too. |
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MadSamoan member
Member # Joined: 21 Mar 2001 Posts: 154 Location: Moorpark,CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2001 11:47 pm |
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These are from some classes at the Atelier. Some of these are older and some are recent. I don't think you'll have too much trouble telling which ones are more recent. Also, the image quality is aweful because all I had to use was a webcam to take the images and it's pretty flaky and has a weird fov to boot. Oh well, it served its purpose in my portfolio and I got the job I interviewed for.
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wigin member
Member # Joined: 23 Sep 2000 Posts: 408 Location: Ottawa Ontario
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 8:58 am |
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i would totally post some figure drawings. i have about over a TON of pads. I go life drawing EVERY night for 3 hours.. i sometimes do 6 hours a day =).... |
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Pringle member
Member # Joined: 05 May 2001 Posts: 376 Location: Ontario, Canada.
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 11:58 am |
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Croquis study.
-Z. |
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wigin member
Member # Joined: 23 Sep 2000 Posts: 408 Location: Ottawa Ontario
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 2:02 pm |
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Hmm Dr Zulus nice croquis BUt one thing that is weird is your second picture.. Why is the model grabbing is penis?? Kinda sexual and unprofessional for my taste.. wierd i think..
there is this model we have at school that i call Mr Happy because he gets SERVERAL erections EVERYTIME he models. I just leave when i see that he is the model.. Speaking of i have to go to life drawing.. in 1 hour.. i hope its not him OR Bird lady .. crosses his fingers |
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shahar2k member
Member # Joined: 01 Jun 2000 Posts: 867 Location: Oak Park CA USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 2:34 pm |
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wigin did you say the bird lady??
heh we have a model named the bird lady as well, for her tiny mouth and condensed face
sadly all I have of her is this drawing
http://home.earthlink.net/~shahar/gallery/drawings/Life-drawing/
for my entire drawing portfolio
sadly this is all from 1-2 semnesters ago, as soon as I can borrow the digicam from my friend again, I will scan in some more of my more current stuff |
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Pringle member
Member # Joined: 05 May 2001 Posts: 376 Location: Ontario, Canada.
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 2:49 pm |
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Hey wigin!
I couldn't care less if the model gets a kick out of being naked in front of the class, all I look at is pose, surface and proportions.
The model grabbing his penis always brings home baked cake for the whole class. I never eat the naked mans cake
-Z. |
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B3AND1P member
Member # Joined: 21 Nov 2001 Posts: 76 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2001 10:33 pm |
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Well here is my contribution to the thread. I'm not the best 2d artist (mainly 3d) but I'm learning a lot from the posts here, keep up the good work guys!
BTW sorry for the copyright crap but I just grabbed the image straight from my website (which seems to down now.. hmm)
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Morbid Guy member
Member # Joined: 19 Oct 2000 Posts: 277 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 12:28 am |
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O.k heres my little contribution to this great thread. Enjoy.
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bonedog77 junior member
Member # Joined: 25 Nov 2001 Posts: 7 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 12:48 am |
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Sorry about the quality. Looks much better at 18x24.
-bonedog |
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Peon junior member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 1999 Posts: 31 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 1:53 am |
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Hi,
I've only started life drawing over the last month or so. But still, I couldn't help adding some of my pics to this thread.
Feel free to comment anyone. And there's more at my website.
~Peon |
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