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Twacle
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2001 11:51 pm     Reply with quote
Hello all !!!

This is my first post and i have to say i have been peeping at people's work for a while now, GREAT STUFF YOU POST HERE boys and girls, i like it a lot. This is the first 2d image i have done on the computer and the first on a tablet (wacom). Lots of "first"-s if you think about it.
I know there is a problem with her neck but i just didn't feel like woking on it any more so it remaind like that.
Please don't forget the CRITIQUE !!! Let me know what you liked\hated\would improve.

Thank you.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2001 11:58 pm     Reply with quote
Sorry but there is no pic ;-)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2001 12:19 am     Reply with quote
sorry about that
hope this time it will work

The Image
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Fate
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2001 12:38 am     Reply with quote
That's not very manga-ish to me
most manga styles doesn't show lips, and their eyes are defined in different ways
The neck needs some fix up as well.
Also, most manga arts look better without colouring unless you can do it like Clamp or something
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2001 9:46 pm     Reply with quote
Twacle, I can see what you are after here. Good effort so far. I can tell you are starting out, and that you're after the kind of stylized beauty favored by japanese cartoonists.

I would suggest some basic tips for how to get started. That worked for me anyway.

Don't be discouraged, it's better to keep working and do new work every day. Don't labor over one drawing, start the next on right away.

Start with copying directly. It's ok to copy - you need to get the basics of the style down. Find some good examples of simple manga and copy them.

Try to make your lines smooth and unbroken. Don't hatch make jagged strokes. Anime is very slick and flowing.

Use simple, flat colors to get started. Anime shading is done with hard edged flat shading, not tonal blends as in american art.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2001 2:09 am     Reply with quote
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I don't know marc, i would strongly urge any 'would-be-manga' artist NOT TO COPY, but more over STUDY what makes anime and manga, ...anime and manga. I mean REALLY study the style, because most anime artist i've seen out side of japan have been copying for so long that all their styles look like ...well Neon Genesis Evangelion. (which is great if you want to be an animator)

Also, the most important, on top of studying Anime, please, please, look at the world around you! DRAW FROM REAL LIFE, don't try to adapt the anime style directly. And also PLEASE don't draw Japanese people if you know NOTHING ABOUT JAPANESE CULTURE. I don't; i've lived in America all my life, i know white, suburban, American culture. Besides 90% of the characters you've seen in anime are...well, japanese/asian people. European, Africans, East Indians, look different...we all know that! (Of course, Fantasy and Sci-fiction can be whatever you wish...)

AND IF YOUR ASIAN, GO FOR IT! DRAW WHAT YOU LIKE!

Thats my advice
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2001 3:51 am     Reply with quote
I know nothing about alien culture, yet I draw aliens. I know nothing about the african way of life, tribes etc... yet I draw african tribes. I know nothing about chicks with bunny ears, yet I draw them (read : try to ) Does that mean I'm wasting my time drawing what I want ? Who the hell are you to tell a person what not to draw
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2001 10:23 am     Reply with quote
I'v been drawing anime style characters for four years but I wish I started out studying anatomy cause you may not know this but anime actually has alot to do with anatomy. I mean sure the face is really off reality with those huge eyes (well not all anime style has huge eyes....it's people's misconception that all anime people has huge-glowing eyes) and I like anime but I prefer styles that are closer to reality.....cause besides the head the rest of the body is very much realistic although some anime style has characters with really really long legs and everything like CLAMP
for inspiration I suggest you see Evangelion and Cowboy bebop. They are my favorites.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2001 11:55 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for your help people !

I've started studing anatomy.
I hope to post something new soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:31 am     Reply with quote
Here is an example of an Anime-ish charcater done with a tonal blend instead of the more traditional cel-style shading.

For the beginner attempting to emulate an Anime style, I would suggest less emphisis on detail, and more focus on shape and form.

[edit] image contains very, very mild adult content.

amine image

[ November 11, 2001: Message edited by: Motorfish ]

[ November 11, 2001: Message edited by: Motorfish ]
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