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[666]Flat member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: FRANKFURT, Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:15 pm |
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Kool member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2001 Posts: 83 Location: Bucuresti,Romania
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:19 pm |
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hehehe that's funny |
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Sumaleth Administrator
Member # Joined: 30 Oct 1999 Posts: 2898 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:21 pm |
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Ouch. Hehe.
You haven't really gone far enough with the combining of elements though. The lighting on the guy being burned doesn't match the lighting situation (ie. bright flame), and the flame doesn't look to be interacting with his body at all. These are almost the main two things you would look at if you were doing this sort of work professionally.
Keep working on it, I think it could be funny if it was more convincing.
Row. |
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Steven Stahlberg member
Member # Joined: 27 Oct 2000 Posts: 711 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:27 pm |
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Why the angry-face? Please also, if you want c&c, tell me what you're trying to accomplish in this image. What is the context, the background, the intent?
Crit: I think you could have increased the effect by making the victim burn, or at least his/her clothes. And flames should be deflected by the face, turning up and down. The top of the shirt should be brightened to reflect all that light - look at the hand holding the lighter, that's how bright the shirt of the victim should be.
Also I'd recommend you to not "break the fourth wall" as they say in the movies - always avoid eye contact, it kind of breaks the suspension of disbelief and reveals the whole thing as a gag. But perhaps that's the idea. |
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Isric member
Member # Joined: 23 Jul 2000 Posts: 1200 Location: Calgary AB
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:32 pm |
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hahaha, I like it. you actually DO have 1337 kills I guess. Have you done any other photomanipulations? |
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JCameron junior member
Member # Joined: 20 Oct 2001 Posts: 9 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 2:46 pm |
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Hi,
A picture is worth a thousand words...
Here's my 2 cents:
Crop it so that the attention is more focused. The Pyro's face is somewhat blury, and looking at the camera.
I made a pic for you because I don't know how to descibe it. Here's a link to the multilayerd psd file PSD File
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osk member
Member # Joined: 29 Dec 1999 Posts: 131 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 6:55 pm |
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Wow ! Yeah that is a lot better , it even looks believable. Very impressedwith what you did with it JCameron.. I like how you selected the greenish skull for it .. do you have prior knowledge of what certain materials colors are as they burn? I just dont think I would have picked that color... but it woks brilliantly. Photo manipulation sometimes gets overlooked in this Forums, but it is definitely an art as demonstrated here. |
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nickmarksdotcom member
Member # Joined: 17 Feb 2001 Posts: 244
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 6:58 pm |
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ROFL! great job! That is a pic that could get around the net because people will think it is real. I would post it in some newsgroups and try to pawn it off as real keep up the great work! do some more stuff like this and if you have post it!
Nick |
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Hyperi0n member
Member # Joined: 01 Aug 2000 Posts: 96 Location: K-W,ON,Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 7:25 pm |
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lol funny! |
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Steven Stahlberg member
Member # Joined: 27 Oct 2000 Posts: 711 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 7:41 pm |
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Why you should never try to do a tv commercial for hairspray on the cheap - particularly not using your producer's idiot nephew as the makeup artist, and a chainsmoking bum as the actor. |
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JCameron junior member
Member # Joined: 20 Oct 2001 Posts: 9 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 7:56 pm |
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Thanks all,
I wasn't sure if I'd get flamed (no pun intended) over messing with someone's pic or not.
As for the skull I just played with the hue and saturation until it jived.
I would also love to see more photomanipulation. If any body has some links, or pics.... |
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[666]Flat member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: FRANKFURT, Germany
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2001 4:29 am |
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First of all: I did that thing in ~ 5 - 10 minutes and my intention was nothing but PHUN. It is NOT meant to be a perfect photo manipulation. JCameron, I like your pic, but it doesn't look "realistic" either. Check the saturation of your fire lightning on his shirt and his cap, doesn't really fit. The flame tops are too blurry and smudgy. The skeleton face thing is way too exaggerated, that ain't no 10000�C super flame thrower or shiat, that's a damn spray can - and regarding the "burning clothes" critique, well, that depends on how long you spray, right? In the first (milli)seconds the clothes wouldn't burn, there would be just a beam of fire and nothing more, no burnt-down-to-the-bone special fx or crap. Sure, the lightning ain't right, I know that. As said b4, I like your pic nevertheless because this massive exaggeration emphasizes the funney in that pic. Very neat.
[ October 25, 2001: Message edited by: [666]Flat ] |
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Steven Stahlberg member
Member # Joined: 27 Oct 2000 Posts: 711 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:30 am |
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First of all: I did that thing in ~ 5 - 10 minutes and my intention was nothing but PHUN. |
So why the angry face on your post? Next time make it clear it's just a gag. Now I feel I wasted precious time trying to help you make your picture better. Perhaps posts like this belong in the Random Musings section, and not in the section for Finished Digital Art.
[ October 25, 2001: Message edited by: Steven Stahlberg ] |
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swampbug member
Member # Joined: 18 May 2000 Posts: 401 Location: il
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2001 8:11 pm |
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Man JC... Sooo many insignificant layers. What's the deal with that !
heck heck... |
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mford52 junior member
Member # Joined: 26 Oct 2001 Posts: 1 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:35 am |
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Gallery/Finished Work
Critique and give feedback if requested.
(http://www.sijun.com/dhabih/mainscreen.html)
Calm down Steven! (See above)
[666]Flat - I think it kicks a**. Good laugh, great image. |
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Red Leader member
Member # Joined: 06 Apr 2001 Posts: 276 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 9:43 am |
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Hahaha!
That's pretty damn funny.
I know this was just whipped together as a photomanip "sketch" if you will. I'd love to see a full out version with proper lighting, if you have the time.
As you say though, no skull, or even a face shown, or the joke is lost. Pyroboy would've have to have been burning the poor slob for some time. In the world of cartoon reality. The skull would come in on frame 2. |
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JeffTheKing junior member
Member # Joined: 25 Oct 2000 Posts: 48 Location: Oakville, Ont, CANADA
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 10:55 am |
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good point red leader. Id like to see someone do the second frame in "real life"... god that wouldnt be pretty... some nice horrible blistering... no exposed hair... a little char and dried up blood maybe. Ive got to say though te scull has great comedic affect, its an interesting project to take comic ideals and apply them to realistic photo manipulation. Sorta reminds me off a gore clip from that movie The Mask. Comic book style violence with real results ,ouch. |
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Nathan Marciniak junior member
Member # Joined: 19 Oct 2001 Posts: 48 Location: Port Washington, WI
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 8:30 pm |
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I think the original is rather convincing, anyone other than people who use this forum would probably think that the guy is really torching his friend. The enhanced version is indeed much more "cool" however it is not believable. Of course, it doesn't NEED to be, it's a gag fer cripes sakes! Photo manipulation is indeed an art form which deserves respect. It is not always an easy thing to do.
But if I was going to do it I would take one photo of the guy actually setting another guy on fire with an aerosol can. This would ensure that all the proper lighting angles and whatnot would be in place. Sometimes you must suffer for your art.
[ October 26, 2001: Message edited by: Nathan Marciniak ] |
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