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Morbid Guy · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:17 pm

I thought I would put this here. Maybe a little overworked and stiff.

Comments crits are welcome.

Jason Manley · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 6:58 pm

nice job.

try tilting the head a bit your (animation movement line in her is straight entirely)...and paint the hell of that head too. it isnt over worked..it is evenly rendered throughout.

notice how this guy makes focal areas by rendering more toward what he wants you to look at...notice how his color peaks there as well.
http://www.justinsweet.com/concepts20.html

now notice where he got it from...these theories are centuries old.

LOOK AT MORE OLD MASTER STUFF to find the solutions to the problems you are having and to the ones you are AWARE OF.
http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/v/Vermeer_Johannes/large/The_Procuress.jpg
and http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/v/Velasquez/large/The_forge_of_Vulcan_EUR.jpg
and http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/v/Velasquez_Diego/large/Velasquez1.jpg

jason manley

LeChuck · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 7:10 pm

*Looks the picture over*
Looks good.

*Looks again and still cant find anything*

*Pretends to know something about drawing*

Should the stripe on the shirt line up with her belly button if she is slightly turing her hips?

Samson & Friends · member Member # Joined: 02 Jan 2001 Posts: 106

I like it. It has good use of colour. The hair and face are done wonderfully; the eyes and nose are flawless. I like the hipsters she's wearing. Her breasts make me uncomfortable, though. I think they're somehow mis-shapen. Overall though, I think it's a really nice piece.

Picco · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 12:58 am

Let me start by saying I really like this pic. Colors are great as is the brush work...and I really love her face..wish I could paint that well

That said here's my crits.

1)Her breast's definatly look mishapen to me..kinda too big without enough curvature. I believe the top of the breasts should curve in towards her body and then out.

2)That's a pretty big gun she's got there, it makes her look a tad off balance imo, as if she's about to fall over. If you were to tilt her body more to the right (her left) that problem would probably disapear, as well as make her look less stiff.

I still really like this though, and by all means feel free to ignore everything else I've said, I'm in no way an expert.

jcFIG · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 2:50 am

Kyri, I love the painting but her head looks a little small. Jason Manleys suggestions of looking at some of the masters is great, and somebody said her breasts were mishapen which I can now see. The hand holding the gun looks larger than the one holding the stake which would be fixed (I think) if you make the head a little larger by painting it over again or just enlarging it digitally and doing a cut and paste in photoshop. Aside from that very awesome work and I hope to see more.

Darkglade · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 3:29 am

I think you definatley have the painting technique to become a great artist, but the drawing underneath needs more work.

Did you spend more time painting or drawing?

Usually I find my better work comes from more time spent drawing than painting. Dont get me wrong, it's a good painting. But it's not brilliant because the drawing looks a bit rushed.

Do you have any other paintings we can see?

Overall you have a style which appeals to me, and the details of the face etc. look good, but the proportions and perspective seem uneasy, which spoils an otherwise lovely painting.

-Darkglade

IGNORE ME! : Awesome protfolio, simple awesome!

[ October 15, 2001: Message edited by: Darkglade ]

Redlemons · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 3:34 am

I agree with most of the others, especially about the breasts looking a bit deformed. I don't think anybody has pointed out the hips - to me they're a little too wide. Even if you're going for a figure more representative of the female body, the hips seem too wide for the waist to me.

Apart from that, the overall look is great

Morbid Guy · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:44 am

Thanks Jason for the links and advice, suggestions.
I'm aware of yours and Justine Sweets work and I admire it very much.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I don't think I will work on this
anymore, but I will keep in mind you're suggestions for next time.

Darkglade I didn't draw it first, just painted it straight out.
Might have turned out better if I had tho.

Yes I have, I will add some more paintings here. The last sketch is traditional.

Jason Manley · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 3:48 pm

here is my input on your work.

draw more heads from life. as often as you can.

if you do that then you will improve a lot.

the same goes for figure drawing and painting from life.

you seem to be in a phase where that kind of study would be very beneficial.

jason

Dryfire · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 5:31 pm

Awesome, i think its great! all of it

Morbid Guy · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2001 1:02 pm

Jason- Thanks for your input. I have studied figure drawing and continue to do so as well as observational drawing from life. This has been essential to my progression as an illustrator and I think would be essential to anyone serious about this subject.

I've made a new thread with some of my traditonal life studies I have done in the past, please take a look at it.
http://www.sijun.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=004848

Also could you please post some of your traditional artwork as it would be great
to see what kind of studies you have done in the past which helped you progress to the artwork and style that you have now.
I'm sure this will give us here some insight into becoming better artists. Thanks.

Dryfire- Thanks