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Kethorin
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2001 6:27 am     Reply with quote
I'm still a digital beginner, but here's one of my newest efforts...



Help and suggestions are welcome!
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Kethorin
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2001 12:17 pm     Reply with quote
I noticed in another post that someone had commented with reference to the bridge of the nose. The nose in the painting being referred to was too smooth, leaving no sign of the indentation at the bridge. Well, I am learning slowly and realized that it is an important part of facial anatomy that I seem to have missed so... I fixed it (subtly) just a small amount and touched up a few little areas.

Any criticism or comments would be appreciated. I have a sincere desire to learn.

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Dryfire
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2001 5:16 pm     Reply with quote
whoah cool.. i'm really diggin tthose lips.. really nice and smoothe.. hair is nice too..hmm you should add some more light though under her chin on her neck... looks like its pressed in.. i like how its going though
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Crepusculum
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2001 5:36 pm     Reply with quote
I actually prefer the original nose bridge to the modified one simply because it now looks as though she has an odd deformity in her brow...almost looks as though she's furrowing it though none of the other facial muscles are matching. Nice rendering though a little more accentuation of the overall values might be nice. She's tending to get a little flat over all. The hair is my favorite part. Did you mirror those gems? You might also consider mixing those up a bit as they would be refracting light differently at different angles. All together a solid peice. Amazing that that final came from that sketch.
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Seraphire
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2001 6:51 pm     Reply with quote
It looks very good.

Possible suggestions.

Greater shading varition in the hair. A sort of overall change in light.

The ball of the nose is a little large for a female. I think.

The throat bothers me. I don't know the names of the muscles/tendons there, but I believe they should be connecting farther back. Not going straight up.
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N8X
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2001 7:50 pm     Reply with quote
i like the new bridge better, but people have all sorts of diffrent kinds. As far as the throut muscles/tendons they connect to pretty much right behinde the ear.I think they just look strange in the new pic.. the old one was fine.
But being new to digi art this is very promising.. keep it up.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2001 8:04 pm     Reply with quote
Didnt read the whole thread, sorry if I repeat, but here is some friendly crit:

First, I really like the detail of the hair ornament. My eye goes strait to it and I love it. But uh, it looks like you used photoshop's drop shadow function for the head ornament layer. Not that it looks all that bad, and I'm sure it was quick, but I supose its generally not considered good style to use such tools :P. Second thing; the hair really needs more depth in my opinion. Darker darks? Not-so-hard edges on the hair would also help. Third: you're edge design isnt clean. I can see what stuff between teh black and green. Doesnt look right. I'm guessing you were on darker-screened computer, which would explain some lack of contrast and seemingly careless trimming of the outside design. Oh, I also love the eyes. Nice work here.
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Kethorin
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2001 11:30 pm     Reply with quote
Hi everyone

I really appreciate everyone's comments and assistance. I will definitely rework her a bit more, keeping all of your advice in mind.

I find that one of my biggest troubles is dealing with light sources. Like in the gems. I rendered them each individually but had a hard time deciding where the reflection should go. I think that I will probably learn with experience and a bit of help from the occasional tutorial perhaps.

I started digitally painting in February of this year but hadn't really devoted much time to it until recently. My first piece is hilareous. I am learning everything it seems. Even though I have always loved to draw, etc, I never learned to do it properly. Not really understanding proper anatomy and color value, etc. So... I'm learning it all at once and am so grateful to anyone who offers constructive advice.

Here is one of my first digital paintings. (pretty frightening, yes?) And below that is what I was creating before going digital (and learning). I am just so happy that I am improving


(First digital piece)
(Pencil piece about a year old)

[ July 19, 2001: Message edited by: Kethorin ]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2001 5:51 pm     Reply with quote
I like the idea of the reworked bridge of the nose. the problem is i think that the nose is to fat right below the indentation of the bridge, it should be a smoother transition i guess.
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