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jerO · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2001 9:17 am

I'm throwing this in here because it'll get more crit on its own than at the bottom of the second page on Ime's thread.

I've gotten some feedback from co-workers as to what i can do to fix this image, and will try to implement those soon. I just wanted to see what you guys had to say as well.

Feel free to draw all over it, i think it'll be good for us all to see this thing get fixed, or see how everyone would approach it.

Verbally: the leftmost form in the image is his right fist, then his head (with tongue coming out below the teeth) and if you just look closely for the sketch, you can figure out his left hand on the right side of the image.

here it is:

CapnPyro · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2001 9:48 am

you could probably fix it by just seperating the colors, mabye go darker and cooler on in his left side and make his arm/hand lighter and warmer, id imagine thatd work if your good

im pretty bad at painting so i wont even attempt a fix

jerO · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 6:48 pm

Okay here's another half hour or so of screwing around with it.

Tried increasing contrast in areas that needed it, and attempted to push some other stuff back a bit. Also threw in more hard-outline kind of garbage.

So where to from here? hehe.

Also, please tell me if this junk is clogging the "Gallery/Finished Work" board. My apologies if it isn't the right place to discuss it.

[ June 13, 2001: Message edited by: jerO ]

ShinShot · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 7:17 pm

Too much visual mud to sift through. I'm with Totally in the sense that I really had no idea what I was looking at. In your first pic, there is way too much emphasis on the background and what lies before it is completely lost. Don't get me wrong, you have a nice color combination working and the composition overall works well too. My suggestion would be to focus on what it is you're trying to convey.
Killer bunny in a ring.
Your focus should be on the head and particularly the eyes and then work back from there. Blur the background (it wouldn't be that crisp) and maybe do a slight motion blur on the foreground hand, but defintely focus on the main character. Also, I would add dead space (dark) below the hand to help everything square off and pop a bit more. My 2 cents...

Good Lord. Did I just offer advice on how to improve a killer rabbit? I guess so. Hope that helped and sorry if it confused...

Good luck!

jerO · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 7:49 pm

LOL thanks man.
Yeah, it made sense.

I was thinking on my way home too that the background should be much less saturated than the foreground character... give it some more atmospheric perspective.
Your comment about blurring it out more fits excatly with that.

I'm just wondering how much more i can do to it before i destroy it

Totally · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:07 pm

after quite a few times glancing at your rabbit, I finally took the time to examine it and I actually figured out what I was lookin at

The rabbit's right hand (our left) just feels like it's attached to the head. Try separating the two somehow... perhaps bring out more highlights on the head to make it stand out more or dulling the color on the hand (or lowering the level of contrast) to make it fall back more.. or a combination of the two...
The same goes for it's left hand (our right).. Since the level of contrast is minimal, the hand falls back into the background... try making it stand out against the arm by adding some nice highlights and stuff...

waylon · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 3:47 am

The second version is about a thousand times more readable. It's still a little muddy, but I think that works with the feeling of the piece. Rock on!

jerO · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 6:34 pm

Okay, i did a version between the last image and this one, but really, when looking at this and the intermediate one, it looks so similar to the last one i posted i'm not goig to confuse the issue by posting it.

So how's this:

Totally · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2001 10:22 pm

I think at this point you've brought the dodge/burn too far. It loses the quality of the original painting and the texture disappears in the glowing dodged areas

jerO · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2001 9:15 am

Totally, i didn't touch the dodge/burn tools, but saying there's too much contrast and a loss of detail is a valid crt, thanks.
(sorry... what i did, among other things, was to duplicate a flattened version of the image, tweaked the levels and curves, converted it to greyscalt, and used that image as a Hard Light layer in the original .PSD)

I'm kind of torn... In a way i like the style of the piece now, like an overexposed photograph of sorts. On the other had, i like the warmth of the previous versions and yeah, a lot of the detail is missing.

hmm... what to do.

jerO

[ June 16, 2001: Message edited by: jerO ]

jerO · Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2001 10:40 am

Okay, so here's the version i did before the "washed out(version 4)" one:
call it version 3.

Totuus · Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2001 1:36 pm

I made few modificaions to your bunny while i was online..

jerO · Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2001 1:55 pm

hmm, cool.
Actually i didn't realize how messed up the torso was until you fixed it.

Your shillouette is much cleaner.

For a second there though, i thought Ime's Bunny took his ears.

So did you find the ear topknot distracting?
-jerO

Totuus · Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2001 4:06 am

Was it ear?

For at least couple minutes i stared it and tried to figure out what it is.. Finally I just erased it, 'cause i couldn't think of anything..
heh, so i was ear, eh..