[starfish]

Yo Bill W.
welcome onboard =D
really nice pic, can't find anything to
crit. I like the light trough her hair =D
would have been interesting to see how the
picture evolved.
what media you usually work in?

best wishes =D

[Bill W.]

This was the starting image I worked with.

Cheers!

[klaivu]

I smell trace & smudge.

[klaivu]

idiot me. douple post.

[ June 14, 2001: Message edited by: klaivu ]

[Waldo]

Welcome aboard. The textures are nice and clean and smooth, but I have to ask if this is a layer trace in PhotoShop? They line up almost perfectly. If so, you'll quickly discover that can be frowned upon in this forum. If not, I'll shut my mouth and get back to work...

Later.

[BooMSticK]

ouch! Some process steps would be highly interesting to see, to say the least... Until then I'm with Klaivu!
,Boom

[ex]

If picture is true... damn.

If not, fuck you. Jesus.

[Thrush]

Seems pretty clear to me.


Fixed link

[ June 14, 2001: Message edited by: Thrush ]

[JeffTheKing]

heheh good work thrush!!

no more flames, just remind the dude that this is a painting / drawing board, and not image manip.

[Bill W.]

ya gota admit though, I sure can Smudge with the best of em!! lol

Next time I will try harder! silly me!

Later peeps!

[Fallen]

fuck, thank god..i nearly had a heart attack.

[stneil777]

is that accually what you did.
you just smudged it up?
I thought you accually just paited it uses this as an under layer.

you know in the old days artist like michael angelo would cast the image with a light projector to there canvase. People here would hang them for that. But yet i bet everyone here loves those artist lol. So if you accually did just put this on another layer and dimmed it. Then on a new layer painted your own, i am not sure why they frown on that. When great artist basically did the same thing. A mistery i might never understand, O well.

[edible snowman]

it is a misterious mistery.

[ex]

Wonk, I'm disapointed as all hell.

[burn0ut]

quote

Quote:

you know in the old days artist like michael angelo would cast the image with a light projector to there canvase.

yea thoes light projector's back in the day where the shit wernt they?

nods

[DRAGooN of deranged]

misterious light projectors

[rv_el]

why do these people even post stuff like this. i knew what was up before i even saw the photograph or the animated gif, or his admitance.. Smudge, hell you could propably just run a smudge filter on the thing.

[geoman2k]

quote:

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Originally posted by Bill W.:
ya gota admit though, I sure can Smudge with the best of em!! lol

Next time I will try harder! silly me!

Later peeps!

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allthough i agree that tracing/smudging is not a good way to make a painting, i'm glad that you posted the original, and admited that you did that. i think that we wouldn't have so much of a problem with stneil, if he would just admit that he traces most of his pictures, and realize that its frowned upon here.
for now, i believe that you weren't trying to decieve us. but ignorance only takes you so far.

[edible snowman]

since when did two giant boobs constitute "slight nudity"

[Fallen]

LOL! burnOut you jerk, i almost spit coke out my nose.

[feebsaint]

[ June 14, 2001: Message edited by: feebsaint ]

[Akolyte]

donet ewe luve thees phonik deprived commints? I dew.

[smalls]

"yea thoes light projector's back in the day where the shit wernt they?"

rofl!@!!!!! lol!!!!!!! hahahahahaha!!!!! fell on da floor.. i love burnOut.. hahah.. he/she is funny.... kekeke...

nice pic.. but she is naked!@!!!!! oh my gosh!!!!!! jk

smalls

[Salty Dog]

Lukias...along with making light projectors, Leonardo, Donatello, Michaelangelo and Raphael perfected their ninja skills under the watchful eye of a painter named Splinter.


hehehehehe (flashback time!)

[dead]

Hm, I come to stneil's defence with this link. I'd hate to let stnail's genius go unnoticed.

As for the paint-over... Perv.

[Mordecai]

quote:

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Originally posted by GreenPeach:
Hm, I come to stneil's defence with this link. I'd hate to let stnail's genius go unnoticed.

As for the paint-over... Perv.

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well i can honestly say that trace/smudge or any filter is definitely not a cool thing to do...an ive seen a few people get "verbally raped" over this stuff...i guess people will never learn :-(

on a slightly happier note....ive always been a fan of boxes

specially light tight boxes.......


muhahahaha!!!


boxes

[Phil]

I actually use a projector. But, and I mean BUT!, I only use it to enlarge my drawings so I can paint them on larger canvas.

It takes so much time to set up the grid and copy each square.

Also, for me it is really hard to keep proportions correct when drawing on say a 24x36 canvas. I normally draw my layout sketch on paper @ 8.5x11 or 11x17 then transfer the drawing to canvas.

That's my 2.8234 cents.

Phil

[ June 14, 2001: Message edited by: Phil ]

[worthless_meat_sack]

Many artists have used these devices. That fact has little to do with the value of the work.



Why does the procedure used make an image make a difference in the perceived quality?

Fallen, suppose it had not been smudged/traced etc. I feel your work is miles beyond it.

I guess what I am trying to say is duplicating a photo, even "freehand" is a very simple thing. It just does not matter how it was done. If Bill W. had simply posted the jpeg and presented it as is, well, it is what it is. Judge it as that.

[Bill W.]

Photoshop Fun

Tell me what you think.

[Pringle]

Is it drawn from a reference? If yes maybe you could post some steps to show.