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spooge demon member
Member # Joined: 15 Nov 1999 Posts: 1475 Location: Haiku, HI, USA
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 2:27 am |
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Enayla-Jezebel inspired princess thingy.
I am trying to slow down with the drawing, but i need to do several thousand more heads before my judgement is better. Too much here, a little overcooked there, nothing with that, feels wrong, etc.
edit-tbns would not delete old file
[ May 24, 2001: Message edited by: spooge demon ] |
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Freddio Administrator
Member # Joined: 29 Dec 1999 Posts: 2078 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 2:36 am |
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Hey Spooge great pic. I love your reflected light.. thats cool. your lighting really creates such a cool atmosphere. I love it. You can really get into your paintings and they really tweak your imagination.
I hope your still working on star wars
Also you always seem to post around 8:30 Australian time. Your a late worker? |
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Freddio Administrator
Member # Joined: 29 Dec 1999 Posts: 2078 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 2:37 am |
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also...
"the neck looks broken *grunt*" |
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DiXter member
Member # Joined: 17 Mar 2001 Posts: 622 Location: sweden
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 3:14 am |
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wow, very beautiful!!
I really like her eyes!
But theres something with her neck..
too long?? |
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Muzman member
Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2000 Posts: 675 Location: Western Australia
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 3:20 am |
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and just which "Australian time" is that Fred?
Looks great. Very smooth, neat face etc, light is marvelous as always. You do some long necks though spooge. What other "problems" you might see aren't glaring to the likes of moi.
cheers |
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jasonN member
Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2000 Posts: 842 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 3:39 am |
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Very nice I love her hair decorations and especially her nose. The form is just so nice!
It's nice to see your portrait work |
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GoldenBoy member
Member # Joined: 18 Jul 2000 Posts: 77 Location: Espoo,Finland
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 3:43 am |
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Too good. |
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dr . bang member
Member # Joined: 07 Apr 2000 Posts: 1245 Location: Den Haag, Holland
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 3:47 am |
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Craig, awesome work. I've always been interested in learning human potrait and never been good at it. I've been praticing drawing human potrait constantly since last year and here's the result
http://www.sijun.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=002974
Please craig, take a look,
I'm kinda tired of spending 1 year praticing on human potrait and don't get much better.
[ May 24, 2001: Message edited by: dr . bang ] |
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kaylon member
Member # Joined: 08 Nov 2000 Posts: 128 Location: Dundee, Scotland
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 3:52 am |
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Lovely Craig...just lovely .
Kay. |
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Kaiju member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2000 Posts: 114 Location: Somewhere
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 4:32 am |
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Nice one spooge. This one looks your best yet for portraits. Did you use any reference for this one? The strokes of light beneath her left eye (our right) seems to be too concentrated to me. I would think it needs to be a little more subtle or wider spread. It looks as though the umm.. "teardrop gland" is swollen right now. |
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-Tepox- member
Member # Joined: 25 Mar 2001 Posts: 352 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 4:41 am |
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Like it a lot! Eyes are wonderful! the lighting is awesome also. |
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klaivu member
Member # Joined: 29 Jan 2000 Posts: 551 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 4:54 am |
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I love and admire the values. |
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Ragnarok member
Member # Joined: 12 Nov 2000 Posts: 1085 Location: Navarra, Spain
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 5:03 am |
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So do I.
And I think the neck is perfect. |
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Frost member
Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2000 Posts: 2662 Location: Montr�al, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 5:08 am |
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I do like her face, but she seems to be missing some 'angle' or detail around the left side of her mouth. You've added some harsh sun lighting on her skin, but there is a lack of bounce light from her hood (I think) to her chin/cheek areas. I also find the sky strange, pulling on purple and rather uniformely dark compared to the extreme sunny conditions the girl is under.
Just my 2 cents. |
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Jezebel member
Member # Joined: 02 Nov 2000 Posts: 1940 Location: Mesquite, TX, US
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 6:17 am |
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She's beautiful. I really like the headpiece she is wearing as well as the leaves above her head. I think I have to agree with Frost about the bg seeming a tad out of place... even though I didn't notice until he brought it up Oh yeah, and I hate to bring it up again but I never heard back from you about my website. Do you need me to re-send the e-mail?
Beth
[edit: Just thought I'd add that I don't know how the heck I inspired you but I'm certainly glad I did... However that may have been ]
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 7:16 am |
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Gorgeous, Craig.
That little bit of lavender at the tip of her nose adds so much. Lovely painting. Remember a while back I was asking, "Where are Craig's women pics?" You just made me very happy. |
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Awetopsy member
Member # Joined: 04 Oct 2000 Posts: 3028 Location: Kelowna
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 7:36 am |
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this picture actually made me say "wow" out loud.
great work craig. |
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Magicman member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2001 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 7:37 am |
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amazing picture. it�s nice to see a more detailed picture than your last once.
my lovely! |
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klash.jr member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2001 Posts: 109 Location: Surrey, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 7:39 am |
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Thank you Enayla & Jezebel for inspiring him Damn.....nice picture Craig. Hey can you do me a favor can you email me the 120 pictures you've finished or better yet post them up some where please...you know from the 500 pictures you and gecko started? Thanks oh and can you read you profile I send you a private message =) |
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dead member
Member # Joined: 18 Feb 2001 Posts: 489
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 7:47 am |
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She's hiding under a parade float until her entourage leaves so that she can run of with a dangerous pirate because her life is so boring. |
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aquamire member
Member # Joined: 25 Oct 1999 Posts: 466 Location: duluth, mn, usa
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 7:52 am |
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God thats beautiful. Did you use reference for construction of the face or is this just out of your head? |
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Staff Sarge member
Member # Joined: 04 Feb 2001 Posts: 177 Location: finland
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 8:06 am |
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Ungh, at first when I saw the topic I was instantly thinking about an action filled orcish fight scene but my expectations were horribly failed when I saw the picture: a beautiful lady!
Well, colour and values seems to be typical 'spoogish' quality (=exxellende). They're just beautiful.
However, something bothers me about the eyes, are they lined up? Is the perspective correct on her left eye? I get the feeling that she's cross eyed (her left eye is looking slightly up). Also, her lower lip seems "fat".
Ok, maybe I'm seeing things, again, but I wanted to say more than "WHOA!" for a change. Ok, that's all.
.. no, wait, is her left cheekbone lower than the right? Ok, I'll stop now. |
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shardik member
Member # Joined: 09 Apr 2000 Posts: 494 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 8:09 am |
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i dig the gold
how long did this take you? |
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zenonithus member
Member # Joined: 20 Feb 2001 Posts: 142 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 8:22 am |
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Radiantly beautiful. Amazing work! |
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Bishop_Six member
Member # Joined: 13 Dec 2000 Posts: 646 Location: Arizona, US
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 9:04 am |
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Ooh, I like this a lot. I've been looking at it for a while trying to see if I can find anything to crit(besides what was already mentioned), but I can't. Her neck does seem a tad long, but some people have long necks |
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Farwalker member
Member # Joined: 20 Feb 2000 Posts: 228 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 9:07 am |
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What a wonderful presence she gives off. A women of power I think!
I must say you handled all the intense lighting very well Spooge. You sure work hard at improving your art skills. |
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BlackPool member
Member # Joined: 11 Apr 2001 Posts: 157 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 9:45 am |
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Well there's nothing that you could do to DRASTICALLY make it better. Everything from here on out would be nitpicking, but I get the impression that that is what you want us to do.
So let the nitpicking begin. I know I am going to get flamed BIG time for this, but.. *DEEP BREATH* here goes. . .
You might add a slightly darker value across the cheek bone in shadow (much as you would see on a cylendar) to further seperate the reflected light from below as well as the triangular frontal plane under her eye and at the same time emphasize her facial structure a bit more.
Adding a darker value at the side of her nostril could help a little and then a slightly lighter value at the side of the ball above it.
Her lips seem to be a bit too close in value given the main and reflective lighting you have. Also the lower lip having two bumps (barely noticeble in most lighting conditions) I belive would be fairly prominate here as the light skips across the surface. Capturing this, I believe would bring out the palpability of her lips a bit more. The same would be true of the indentation between her nose and red of the lip.
And lastley, I think the ear could be angled twards us a bit more (yet the angle of the ear-ring is perfect).
I some small part of this helps. But at the risk of echoing everyone else, I think it's a great piece that I would be proud to have in my portfolio. |
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Joachim member
Member # Joined: 18 Jan 2000 Posts: 1332 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 12:50 pm |
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oh, that's a beauty spooge. She looks stunning. And, I don't personally think there's nothing wrong with the anatomy that bothers the eye at all.
Only nitpicking things in my opinion (I feel silly mentioning this since it doesn't really matter for the picture) but since you are so devoted to improve on that sort of things lately, I guess it won't hurt. the left (from our view) part of the lip, as frost mentioned, looks a bit like the upper part of the lip goes a bit to much down, maybe you should see more of the underlip meeting the upper lip ? also the ear, it seem a bit to far behind, almost as if it would come out of her neck. maybe you could mark the transition between head and ear a bit more ? ....-but this is infact nitpicking and I don't think you should pay attention to it because the proportions and life in the picture is excellent, me thinks. |
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SpiralEye member
Member # Joined: 08 May 2001 Posts: 234 Location: Savannah, GA
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 1:55 pm |
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Pretty. Face looks kind of flat. Sharp, too. JUST a little. Like the nose. Anyhow, painting looser really ought to do some amazing things for your art--as long as we don't critique it to death. I like the method used to suggest ringlets or golden thread on her bodice. |
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burn0ut member
Member # Joined: 18 Apr 2000 Posts: 1645 Location: california
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 2:12 pm |
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lips look alittle funny |
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