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FireWalker member
Member # Joined: 18 Jan 2000 Posts: 78 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2001 9:56 pm |
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Alas! It is complete.
This is a claymation "thingy" that I've been working on for quite some time now.
Not sure how well it fits in a "digital art gallery" quite yet... but hey, I'm an old-school member/lurker... and it was edited digitally... so that counts, right?
And I guess there is some artwork in there somewhere if you look hard enough... and a pen, and ink. Now that I think of it, it has the best of all worlds.
Anywho's, this is mainly for your enjoyment, but I would definitely appreciate any feedback that can be mustered up.
WARNING: Not intended for the young ones.
Go watch it anyway...
(for best results allow download to finish before viewing)
Eric |
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nickmarksdotcom member
Member # Joined: 17 Feb 2001 Posts: 244
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2001 10:33 pm |
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First off! It is a big download people but download this! it is worth it.
SIMPLY AWESOME!!! I loved it. I don't know you but I am soooo proud of you. What a great little short film. I congrajulate you on all your hard work. How long did it take you to do? and what program did you do your sound effects/syning in?
The cutting was fantastic and some of the angles you captured were very imagninative. The black and white feel really gave the piece a nice creditablity. Looks very professional. What are you planning to do with it? Enter it into festivals? You need to put in on Atomfilms.com for one.
On top of all that the story was really funny. THe guy drawing himself a bigger penis and then the penis stabbing the guy through the head is classic.
Keep up the great work.
Nick |
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waylon member
Member # Joined: 05 Jul 2000 Posts: 762 Location: Milwaukee, WI US
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2001 11:09 pm |
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Wow, that's great. For a moment, I thought you had mis-spelled "Resurrection", but I soon found myself corrected.
I especially liked the "creation" sequence. It had a really great artistic feel to it, and you did a great job giving it a frantic feel towards the end. I thought the animation in the claymation scenes, however, was a little bit harder to follow. The motion of the characters was kind of choppy, which was probably part of the problem, though I know how hard it is to get it right from my own feeble attempts.
The other thing that could have been improved a bit was the lighting, and the contrast within each shot. With stop-motion animation you don't have any motion blurring between frames (obviously), so it's very important that any moving figures are extremely well defined, since it takes longer for the viewer's eye to pick out the form from one frame to the next.
If you look at any given frame with the ogre in it, for instance, the range of values that make up his form are very limited. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being pure black, 10 being pure white, his skin usually has a value of 5 and below, and his jacket and armor are rarely more than 1 or 2. The main character is a little bit better due to his lighter coloring - you can get a full range of shadows from white to black. In any case, when there's such a small difference in values across a form, it becomes pretty difficult to read - and that's multiplied tenfold when you have stop-motion animation.
I guess the main way to improve this would be to manually set the camera's exposure and aperature settings for each scene, then do whatever post-processing you can to enhance the range of values.
I hope I don't sound too condescending or anything. I know a lot of this is the basics, but after playing through the movie two or three times, it's what stood out at me as what could be improved the most. (The first time through I was too busy lauging my ass off. ) I can't wait to see your next movie!
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Sumaleth Administrator
Member # Joined: 30 Oct 1999 Posts: 2898 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 12:50 am |
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Heh, thats very well done.
Row. |
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Bjorn junior member
Member # Joined: 06 May 2001 Posts: 37 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 5:25 am |
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*concentrates*
That's just MAGNIFICENT!
*then stops fighting the laughter*
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!!!
Don't try using your erection like this at home guys! *ouch!*
And IMHO, that's definitely art.
Da Bjorn |
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wayfinder member
Member # Joined: 03 Jan 2001 Posts: 486 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 6:16 am |
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congrejaculations |
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Jezebel member
Member # Joined: 02 Nov 2000 Posts: 1940 Location: Mesquite, TX, US
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 6:32 am |
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Hahaha... that was so hilarious! You did an excellent job on it! I can see that synj would get a kick out of this one. Definitely worth the download time, hehehe.
Beth |
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FFNeX member
Member # Joined: 15 Dec 2000 Posts: 133 Location: Miami, FL, USA
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 10:06 am |
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That is one of the best claymations I have ever seen, it's fantastic, I give it an A++ TAKE THAT CHICKEN RUN!
Two questions:
1) How long did it take you to make it?
2) What's the name of that song? I know I have heard it before in a movie but I can't remember now and it's cool as hell. |
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::Dino:: member
Member # Joined: 09 Sep 2000 Posts: 250 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 12:00 pm |
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Hilarious Great work. |
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synj member
Member # Joined: 02 Apr 2000 Posts: 1483 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 12:20 pm |
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awesome hehehe
you're right jezebel, i liked it alot. what wonderful use of a wanky.
criticism is at hand, though. I really didn't like the hall of the mountain king song for the intro. bleh!
I didn't care for the whole intro at all, infact, BUT I DID after he altered himself by changing the thing on the paper. so kudos on that one. hehe
The choppiness didn't bother me at all and I absolutely love the stab in the side of the head with the dagger and the wakka through the skull at the end hahahaha what a superb heart he must have to pump all that blood.
overall, that was very very delightful! please keep up the happiness. |
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daz199 member
Member # Joined: 30 Dec 1999 Posts: 415 Location: Surrey, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 12:54 pm |
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hahhah
that's awesome!! ![](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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Dan member
Member # Joined: 24 Sep 2000 Posts: 224 Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 1:04 pm |
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OMFG, I laughed for like an hour after that. Sweet |
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Bg member
Member # Joined: 20 Jan 2000 Posts: 675 Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 1:13 pm |
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The music of The Gladiator fitted perfectly to the action, brilliant animation!!! |
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Socar MYLES member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 1229 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 5:03 pm |
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The BEER was a really nice touch. I just about died laughing when I watched this...I was already snickering when that pen started dancing manically across the paper, and when he drew that giant willy...well.... You know what? I'm still laughing. I hope you post MANY more of these. |
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Zorglub member
Member # Joined: 20 Dec 2000 Posts: 268 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 5:29 pm |
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Bwahahahahahahahahaha
That is the funniest thing I have ever seen. It seems like you realy put a lot of effort into this. I'm a film major and I gotta say I love this. What kind of camera did you use, super8, 16 mm?
Keep this up, you'll make a name for yourself.
Good luck |
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N8X member
Member # Joined: 13 Oct 2000 Posts: 112 Location: Austin,Tx usa
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 9:34 pm |
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that was soo funny and nicely shot!
your my new best friend
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FireWalker member
Member # Joined: 18 Jan 2000 Posts: 78 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 9:42 pm |
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Thanks all for the feedback!
nickmarksdotcom - thank you i was considering some festival action if it was pretty well accepted and possibly ifilm or atomfilms, too.
waylon - thanks! this is the stuff i'm looking for.
I actually tried adding motion blur later in after fx.. and while it was completely possible and looked good on the test, it was just too time consuming so i stuck with chop-suey.
Due to my total underestimation of how long it would take to animate.. i shot the first half last summer.. and since i wasn't able to finish it in the short time i had the camera, i recouped from the hell that was the first shoot, and finished it during a weekend about 6 months later. there is a definite inconsistency from one shoot to the other though. 2nd half is grainier, and overexposed, while the first half was what i was hoping for. but that's something that had definitely bothered me and thanks for pointing it out.
suma - thanks, row.
bjorn - glad u think its art.
wayfinder - hahahah
jez -
FFNeX - thanks!
1) way too long. 2 weekends worth of filming (with maybe an hour or two of sleep each) taking into effect that fact i burnt a hole through a wall due to the overload of my crappy old wiring. transfer, edit, sound.. many hours.
2) "in the hall of the mountain king" - i believe
Dino - Thanks
synj - ah, the one i was hoping would critique.. muchos gracias.
daz - (see dino)
dan - (see daz)
bg - i feel a lawsuit coming on. thanks!
socar myles - ah, the forgotten beer. originally it was to play a milestone in the story. the cap was to be a shield.. damn u lack of time!
zor - thanks.. i'm a film major too. it was a bolex 16 mm. you swedes aren't just good artist, you make a fine clunker of a camera too.
wow, well that was a lot of typing just then. thanks in line, always appreciate the feedback.
really helps too, especially when you get so use to (and attached to) what you're working on that you're simply blind to blatant oversights. |
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Spooky member
Member # Joined: 18 Oct 2000 Posts: 217 Location: Banff, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 11:50 pm |
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That was one hella cool short, er I mean 'long' film! Another person pushing the envelope of entertainment and digital cinema! My hat goes off to you! Friggin' hilarious and the execution of the animation only adds to the point. I especially like the fact that you combined the traditional media of ink and had the characters tranform into clay. Very well though out, excellent camera angles, a good study of the film techniques! Bravo! |
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StormVermin member
Member # Joined: 13 May 2000 Posts: 252
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 8:18 am |
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*Ahem*
Oh.. my.. God.. |
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FireWalker member
Member # Joined: 18 Jan 2000 Posts: 78 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 8:29 pm |
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honestly didn't see this coming..
Papercut took "Best Animation" last night at the Academy of Art film festival. ![](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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FireWalker member
Member # Joined: 18 Jan 2000 Posts: 78 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 8:33 pm |
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thanks spooky.. btw that's one impressive web page you've got going on there. multi talent man |
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Jezebel member
Member # Joined: 02 Nov 2000 Posts: 1940 Location: Mesquite, TX, US
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 9:16 pm |
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Wow, congratulations! It definitely deserved it. Everyone I have shown this to has loved it... even... *horror film music*... my dad!
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FFNeX member
Member # Joined: 15 Dec 2000 Posts: 133 Location: Miami, FL, USA
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 9:59 pm |
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Congratulations man, I honestly couldn't think of anything that would take any animation award from this, it deserves all the awards it gets. I hope this is the first one in a whole bunch of them you'll be getting for this and your future animations. |
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DiXter member
Member # Joined: 17 Mar 2001 Posts: 622 Location: sweden
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2001 5:23 am |
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Awsome!!!
what more to say...
I also want to do clay animations..
Congratulations! |
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Krazy member
Member # Joined: 09 Dec 2000 Posts: 238 Location: MI, US
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2001 6:04 am |
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simply amazing...i loved it. say where did you learn your stuff i tryed my hand an claymation and blah is all i got to say but youve got a great lil movie here i love it. |
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Luci member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2001 Posts: 78 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2001 12:16 pm |
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This absolutly rocks.. I was still pissing myself laughing ewhile I was on the phone to my boyfriend, I showed him it, and he was pissing himself laughing too. Great job, I like it.. Do moooooooorrrrrrreeeeeee!!!!!!
*laughs hysterically and goes to watch it again*
-Luci |
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gLitterbug member
Member # Joined: 13 Feb 2001 Posts: 1340 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2001 4:55 pm |
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My congratulations for winning, but as somebody said above, you REALLY deserved it.
It is one of the funniest things I have seen in a very long time, really great! |
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anticz member
Member # Joined: 08 May 2000 Posts: 285 Location: San Diego, CA, USA
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2001 5:56 pm |
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That was f#$%*%g great. Makes me want to throw my computer away and go back to working with clay maquetts. |
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Negative junior member
Member # Joined: 02 Nov 2000 Posts: 46 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2001 12:44 pm |
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OMG, that's amazing FireWalker. I can just imagine how much patience it requires. I could't do something like that...how did you make that pen fly in the air? and nice final shot btw hehe |
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Prolix member
Member # Joined: 24 Sep 2000 Posts: 66 Location: Ham, Cheese, Bread
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2001 2:54 pm |
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whaaaaaaaaa I can't watch it for some reason!
dammit i wanna!!! |
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