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Lunatique
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 1:47 pm     Reply with quote
The Spoogester strike again! Welcome back!

I agree with Enayla. Even though I prefer the color scheme/mood of the sketches, the finished piece is still wonderful.

So, since most of us have that "the sketch had more life/mood" syndrome, how do we combat it? Anyone found a good way to remedy the problem? I definitely need help in that area too.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 1:47 pm     Reply with quote
Yep, I have to agree. Still a cool piece, but one where it looks like you needed someone standing over you with a hammer to whack you on the head when it's time to stop. A cross between the bottom and finished would have been good. I find his face a bit too busy and the feather somewhat of a distraction now, but hey... I'm preaching to the choir.

I'm still figuring out the inner nuances of my crayons...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 2:18 pm     Reply with quote
thanks for posting spooge , this piece is absolutely awe inspiring


you f*#ing rule man
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 2:52 pm     Reply with quote
Oohh arrgg that be a truely breathtaking piece of work....arrgg

-- Can someone please post links to the sketches, for I cannot see them?.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 5:08 pm     Reply with quote
Spooge so glade to have you back after your vacation in hawaii. I hope you had fun on those matt's for FF . I hope that the art directors where not to much of a pain. I can't waite to see the new matt painitgs after the movie comes out. Thism painting is however incredible. I love the way you can capture a moment so well and makie it look so special.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 5:20 pm     Reply with quote
So Final Fantasy kicks ass huh? Excellent....

A question:

I was at Fry's the other day and I saw this poster for some PS2 Star Wars game and it looked a whole hell of a lot like your style. Was it yours? If'n it was yer'n then I imagine you know the one or ones I'm talking about.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 5:22 pm     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by quintessential:
[B]It's post like these that me lead to seriously consider trying
something other than art. And of course possibly becoming manically depressed, but that's just me.

*falls of his chair bewildered by the sheer amount of talent
he realises he doesn't have*

[B]


Hey don't feel so bad, talent can only get you so far -- natural skill just gets your "foot in the door." To get far somewhere, it's really about effort and perseverance.

~PM




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 5:22 pm     Reply with quote
Oh, I forgot

"Arghhh...."

Is that onomato-poetic or what?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 7:08 pm     Reply with quote
Spooge Spooge Spooge...

i cant believe you would post something like this.. you call this bad??????? makes me feel like crap now.. I thought my little ninja turtle painting was coming along nicely.. but nooooo...

just kidding.. I really like this.

"Sleep- Thats when Im a pirate" -simpsons?? Ralph? no?

awe

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 7:37 pm     Reply with quote
Haha. Painterly. I'm taking a history of art class and they call what you do painterly. Muahahah.... Hydrid knows art vocab.

I love the colors. Mmmmm.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 10:30 pm     Reply with quote
Wow, that looks great spooge.
I have to tell you, I think it looks a lot better than the sketch, his face and hands are amazing, they truly make the picture.
Keep posting this stuff, I can't begin to tell you how inspiring it is.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 10:34 pm     Reply with quote
I struggled to find something to nit pick, but other than the general atmosphere(Which I liked better in the sketch), there's nothing to comment on that I can see. Glad to have you back, hope you get more time to do fun stuff no that FF is over with.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:45 pm     Reply with quote
Very nice, Spooge. The quality of every stroke you put down is unbelievable.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 12:08 am     Reply with quote
i like it.
the rain and stuff is nifty.

I assume you are quoting ralph from the simpsons " Yay,sleep---thats when i'm a viking!"

simpsons rule.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 12:45 am     Reply with quote
It's post like these that me lead to seriously consider trying
something other than art. And of course possibly becoming manically depressed, but that's just me.

*falls of his chair bewildered by the sheer amount of talent
he realises he doesn't have*

[This message has been edited by quintessential (edited March 18, 2001).]
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 1:21 am     Reply with quote
Spooge,

From one Machead to another, welcome back! Fantastic Pirate! Very foreboding! My wife and I were married in Hawaii on Maui and honeymooned on Kauai. Beautiful. We can't wait to go back. Very inspirational as well. Keep up the fantastic work as usual.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 2:35 am     Reply with quote
Sorry, can't say anything. My jaw dropped on the floor and rolled under the bookshelf.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:40 am     Reply with quote
Great usage of light, as usual.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 11:44 am     Reply with quote
Wow. Simply amazing you can create a scene in your mind and then just render it with such skill. I really like the detailed version, because I can look at it and notice new elements/details/textures in it that I didn't upon first viewing. (And notice that one post goes over the decorative part between it and the ceiling instead of fitting into it. )
Just my personal preference, but one place where I think it may have lost something from the sketch is the near white light on the central figure creating a more varied color scheme in the detailed than the sketch. Maybe somewhere between the two.

[edit] Ahh.. Mutiny, I didn't see it but now lots of things about the pic make more sense to me now. I think what threw me was I misread it that the captain had just stabbed his dagger against the post.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 1:06 pm     Reply with quote
F* me that's awesome! There's lots of depth to that picture, and i really like the oily feel to it. Plus I like pirates anyway.
<--- neeby pirate!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 1:43 pm     Reply with quote
Ouch, this is wonderful Spooge.
This is where a ton of hard work and a special gift comes together to do art of this level.

Keep up the hard work Spooge!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 3:09 pm     Reply with quote
I reply soon, cant right now. I will post some blowups.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 3:33 pm     Reply with quote
Hey Craig, great to have you back!

First, I'd like to extend my congratulations on the completion of Final Fantasy - I, as many other millions of geeks are looking forward to seeing this piece. It would be nice if, after the movie's release, you could send some shots of the pieces you did... just so we could point out "Hey! Craig did this!!" during the movie. It's always great to know someone who's contributed to such things.

On the pirate picture - It's a nice image, it's, very you. =) You always have some background elements drowned into a mist - shapes speak. =) I understand how you feel about sketching, putting down values and color, and you got a working image, you add some contrasting hues at key places, start refining parts, adjusting the values ever so sligthly... and 5 hours later... you realize that your image is now a bad remake of something that would look otherwise alright... (Of course, this always looks better coming from you no matter what)... but I can relate.

Anyway, I'm very glad to hear from you again... sort of miss having you around.

regards,
frost.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:06 pm     Reply with quote
Sorry, should have posted earlier, i answer you all wed, i am not home right now.

It's a mutiny! i screwed up! The cappy comes down and finds the dagger imbedded in the post. he holds it and as he does this he thinks that it's not the best idea. Trap.

Shows how much i need to figure out narrative. sigh

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2001 12:28 am     Reply with quote
:)
I like the colors in the finished piece a lot more than the those of the sketches

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2001 5:32 am     Reply with quote
so i did read it kinda right. my first impression was that this is a captain who is facing his last fight, preparing to take with him as many as possible, making his peace with the world, with the attackers already coming at him. he'd been waiting in this room for a while, idly drilling a hole in the post with his knife, waiting for the mob on the ship to come down and find him, fully knowing that his fate was already sealed. resignation and maybe the hope to have an interesting arch-enemy so he can have a last talk to an intelligent being before he dies.

i wasnt sure if these were his own men or strangers though.


the purplish *(gah, i don't know what that is in english, the belt thingy)* is awesome



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2001 7:29 am     Reply with quote

Good to see your awesome pics again. And very interesting lighting like usually.

If you're not satisfied with this one, you might want to try my algorithm:
1. Add bigger swords and more blood.
2. If you're still not satisfied go to step 1.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2001 6:34 pm     Reply with quote
Spoogy Dooby do!
can I come over to your house and hang out with ya some time? Drink a couple sodas, shoot the breeze.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2001 9:33 pm     Reply with quote
I wonder...did you have the idea before you started sketching, or did you fit the image to the idea after you started? Just curious.

To strengthen the story, hrmm...I don't think I'd be reacting like that if I just realized my life was in danger, and my crew mutinying. My eyes would likely be slightly flared, my head tilted down, looking lower right, as though I'm listening behind me and looking in front and to my side at the same time. I'd be very tense, stiff, because of the sudden fear and anxiousness. Perhaps instead of a dagger, he could have just reached the bottom step of the stairs, seeing the grey shapes hunched together in the dim light, and feeling the sun blocked from above by silhouetted shapes behind him up the stairs. Anyway, something like that would tell the story more I think. Give him a spy glass like he's just been topside looking off, and it shows definately that he's the Captain. What you tink? ;]

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2001 3:25 am     Reply with quote
Cool... I really like the pirate theme. I've been kinda hooked (No pun intended) on Pirates since playing a game of that name on my old (REALLY old) Amstrad 1640.
Arrr! Keep up ye good work!

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