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Enayla member
Member # Joined: 26 Nov 2000 Posts: 1217 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 4:16 pm |
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... pretty boy.
Uhm, yeah, right - I should explain myself here. I like to draw pretty boys (much like a lot of you people here like to draw pretty girls)... Only my view of a pretty boy is rather difficult to draw... since they all end up looking like girls
So... I thought I'd draw from reference for once, picking a picture of a rather cute guy, and trying to keep at least something of that which makes male faces look male, while paining a picture that matches the face I want for the character. Am I making any sense?
I think I succeeded:
- Jynthewel.
Reference used (at some point, I must've flipped my picture horizontally, to make sure the features were not all screwed up... and when I flipped it back, I found I liked it better the way it is... so...) :
So. Ah. I feel much better now Next time I'll work without reference. I've learned. I like learning.
(Edit) Gaah, forgot, I meant to include: (which, by the way, is still a shrunk version of it)
(Edit2) Replaced the picture
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Tweeder member
Member # Joined: 03 Oct 2000 Posts: 189 Location: Jacksonville, Fl, USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 4:21 pm |
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i think you did a great job, the face looks a lot like the reference. the whole pic looks really good, as per usual
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SlightlyTwisted member
Member # Joined: 11 Dec 2000 Posts: 436 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 4:27 pm |
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His chin is very very shiny. Has he been drooling? Or perhaps you are the responsible drooler. :P
As ever, fantastic work, in fact, more fantastic than usual, although I'm not sure how many showers of praise you'll get this time around. You succeeded in making him more plausibly male, while retaining that special beauty you breath into everything, and that added realism might keep a few of the guys away from here.
His neck is bugging me. It looks so uncomfortably straight. |
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sahripper member
Member # Joined: 11 Dec 2000 Posts: 69 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 4:27 pm |
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It looks pretty good. Nothing really to crit. But if you give it more rough and squared off features it will look more like a guy. |
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SlightlyTwisted member
Member # Joined: 11 Dec 2000 Posts: 436 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 4:28 pm |
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OOOPS!!!
I didn't mean to put an Angry Smily on that post.
Oh, and that eye you added is spectacular! : :
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Enayla member
Member # Joined: 26 Nov 2000 Posts: 1217 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 4:33 pm |
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Heheh, I can see that now - the chin is a bit shiny... but then, the background sucks, so I think I can live with that until I feel a bit more up to fixing it
Thanks for the compliments everyone
The whole POINT of this picture is for me to train my own style, actually. This guy isn't supposed to have rough and square features.
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Binke member
Member # Joined: 27 Oct 1999 Posts: 1194 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 5:18 pm |
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Enayla: You seem to be ashamed of using reference. Why is that? There is nothing wrong with it, you have to learn how to paint certain things, somehow.
Anyways, your picture is very nice. Although I think there should be some more highlights on the ear and maybe some sharper edges on it.
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PandaX52 member
Member # Joined: 10 Feb 2001 Posts: 603 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 5:53 pm |
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Genetics suck, as a fetus, it's just a gamble that you end up getting genes that develop into the "pretty boy" face mold. Call me negative or even call this reply useless...you can't deny the truth...
It's not fair...
I gues that is what plastic surgery is for eh? |
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L99Relm member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 2000 Posts: 123 Location: VA, USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 8:07 pm |
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Wow...me likes. What a pleasant change, what with all of the half-naked women around here. Nice to see a cute guy =) I especially love his eyes and hair, they're just gorgeous. Wow, I said wow, and did I mention that I like this picture? I think you should quit drawing females entirely and just draw boys ^_^
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BakaSan member
Member # Joined: 03 Feb 2001 Posts: 115 Location: Japan (formerly NW USA)
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 8:53 pm |
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NO! dont stop drawing girls!
but i do think this is cool. problems i see are that the point on the ear looks too thin and maby slightly transparent at the tip, and the neck decorations dont look quite right. maby its the shadows |
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Sergenth member
Member # Joined: 06 Apr 2000 Posts: 437 Location: Milford NJ USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 9:06 pm |
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That's very well-done. At first... before the picture loaded, I assumed it would be an atrocious cutefest, but the prettiness of the guy does not offend me at all. It looks like there is a story behind his looks, as if the way he grew up, his culture, and his family affected his features. I'd liken it to the way the Nameless One in "Planescape Torment" exudes story through his scars and tatoos and his expression.
That's hard to do - to give meaning to form - and with a still portrait Very nice! |
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Awetopsy member
Member # Joined: 04 Oct 2000 Posts: 3028 Location: Kelowna
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 9:12 pm |
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Wow.. enayla.. once again that is awesome.
The only thing I think that makes him a bit on the femme side is the braded hair.
other that n that I think is perfect.
great work. |
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Irulann member
Member # Joined: 20 Nov 2000 Posts: 66 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 9:19 pm |
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**swoons**
that is all--OH! Enayla can I be your apprentice? *laughs*
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Seph|roth member
Member # Joined: 07 Sep 2000 Posts: 261 Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 9:34 pm |
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Very nice work Enayla, however there seems to be something off about the neck, it just doesnt seem totally "right" to my eye...
Keep up the good work
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Enayla member
Member # Joined: 26 Nov 2000 Posts: 1217 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 12:00 am |
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Note to self: Fix ear, and work on the neck a bit. Edit the outfit.
Thanks everyone!!
Thing is, I often look at pictures to a degree when drawing, but raaaarely as much as I did when making this one. 'twas a very learning experience though. And I'm pretty pleased with the results Glad to see others like it as well.
I'm not "ashamed", as such, using reference... but I wish I could've produced this one without it
(Edit) Oh, and Panda... go post your complaints on one of the pictures of girls with boobs that could be used as floating devices. I make one picture of a cute boy and you start whining about genetics... sheesh... Yeah, sure - it's unfair. Tell me something that's not?
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Socar MYLES member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 1229 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 12:29 am |
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Sweet lighting...I love the greenish highlights on his nose, forehead, and chin. I think you've quite outdone yourself on the skin tones. At first, I thought the clothes seemed a bit flat, but the stylization works well with the equally non-representational background. All in all, I'd rate it a success.
He's much prettier than the reference lad. You've made the features more refined. I like that.
*Bumbles off* I haven't slept in 48 hours. Sorry I couldn't make a more intelligent comment.
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tayete member
Member # Joined: 03 Dec 2000 Posts: 656 Location: Madrid, Spain
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 1:43 am |
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I think I don't fit in your male schemes...but anyway, your pic is simply awesome (mmmm...maybe the ear is a bit blurred for my tastes, but those are my personal tastes). |
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Daijoobu member
Member # Joined: 05 Jan 2001 Posts: 132 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 4:23 am |
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Ojojoj
Vad kan jag s�ga? =)
Great work! I'm in awe. |
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Eriol junior member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 9 Location: Moscow, Russia
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 6:18 am |
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Great work, Enayla! He looks like Leo DeKaprio
I just fix two bugs: his ear some lower, that is must be and - his some strage chin.
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Solitaire member
Member # Joined: 03 Nov 2000 Posts: 429 Location: Hamburg (Germany)
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 6:29 am |
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great work: great work *collapses into chair*
...but why do I have the feel he's 28, but has the skin of a 5 year old? Maybe he's a model for skin lotions ...
well the reference pic didn't load for, so maybe somewhwere there're such boys and at least it's another elf
I wish I could take a look over your shoulder while working - I'm sure I'd learn a lot |
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Spitfire member
Member # Joined: 20 Mar 2000 Posts: 2009 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 7:03 am |
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That's not a pretty boy. It's just a pretty drawing.
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Enayla member
Member # Joined: 26 Nov 2000 Posts: 1217 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 8:26 am |
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Wow, lots of comments. Due to bad headache, I won't respond to every single comment, but instead just point out a few things...
...I've fixed the picture a little. Just some minor tweaks. He does NOT look like Ugly DiCaprio - pleeeeeeeeease say he doesn't!
He's got soft skin because he's an elf. The elves I draw are usually of the ageless kind...
And thanks everyone for your nice compliments
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SlightlyTwisted member
Member # Joined: 11 Dec 2000 Posts: 436 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 8:47 am |
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*chuckles at her comments*
Would you really want a chest of floatation device proportions? Personally, I'm not at all fussy when it comes to ladies and their attributes. They all look good to me, reguardless of shape or size. The most beautiful, attractive girl I've ever known was an A cup, but that said, I like them all. 'All' excluding those of the fake variety. I'm just happy to be there, very easy to please.
Anyway, enough rambling about the beauty that is woman, and on to your beautiful man. His chin looks perfect, now, much like the rest of him, almost too good to be true. I like what you did with his costume, too, it looks much more like he's actually wearing it. Not that I would, mind you, but my own tastes aren't the issue here.
After a year looking at your pictures, I've only just noticed why your pointy ears fascinate me so much... we do them completely differently. You do them with the long edge going straight up on the side, with the point on the top, like Mr Spock. I tend to do them with the point growing a bit more towards the back, swept back a bit, like a smaller version of what Mogwai and Gremlins have. I think yours look more elegant, by far, while mine look more... I dunno, cocky, perhaps?
Anyway, fantastic work! It's almost scary that you never stop improving, as impossible as that seems.  |
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faustgfx member
Member # Joined: 15 Mar 2000 Posts: 4833 Location: unfortunately, very near you.
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 10:02 am |
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*blink*
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Dives member
Member # Joined: 22 Sep 2000 Posts: 392 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 10:57 am |
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Well nice job but i still think the character looks a lot like a girl.... i might be imagining this... but keep it on |
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Binke member
Member # Joined: 27 Oct 1999 Posts: 1194 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 10:57 am |
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Ear looks better now
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kig junior member
Member # Joined: 26 May 2002 Posts: 28 Location: funland
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 3:59 pm |
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does this mean i should start posting my disturbed asexual androgyn goth sketches?
now there's an idea!.. umm the smoothness is oddlypod
nevermind i'm trying to shake off this drunken stupor :/ |
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Eriol junior member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 9 Location: Moscow, Russia
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2001 12:13 am |
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Dear Linda, you draw, looking to the photo (and professional question: do you make pencil sketch before drawing in Photoshop?), but in this time thinking about Leo =))) It's true, that it some looks like guy from photo from one side and from another - like Leo
Anyway, good, good, VERY good artwork!
How many time do you spend to draw first sketch (wuthout color shading)? And what was the size of original image? 1200*2000? |
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CapnPyro member
Member # Joined: 25 Mar 2000 Posts: 671 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2001 12:44 am |
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he has that really fake airbrushed look to him. when one of my teachers was doing an airbrush demonstration he showed us one of the ways to get rid of that look. he'd take a toothbrush and put on a bit of a complimentary color and flick it across the canvas. when he'd airbrush over it'd leave a nice texture and would make it more skin like... all of his airbrushed people looked really realistic (that and hes damn good). he does have that pretty boy look, but he's just so darn plasticy looking
another thing id look at maybe adding would be how the part between your eyebrow and your ear on your scalp comes to sort a point.. his hair is just rounded from bangs to ear.
excellent painting, and the detail on his eye is astonishing. i also dig the orange highlights in his hair |
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BakaSan member
Member # Joined: 03 Feb 2001 Posts: 115 Location: Japan (formerly NW USA)
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2001 12:53 am |
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I think this is a great pic. and i dont think it looks anything like leo de'crapio
[edit]i shouldnt say that. hes not THAT bad
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