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BakaSan
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 5:03 am     Reply with quote
The counter and wall look like they do because i was trying to get a painterly look, but thats not very easy to do in Photoshop with a mouse, so i gave up on that idea by the time i got to the figure.
ummm.... its kinda a valentines pic! see? there is a visible heart! (supposed to be glowing through his chest, but dont know iff i pulled it off(the bones are just body paint)). Tell me what you think. Rip it apart. I can take it, and i want to get better.

I NEED A WACOM!!! anybody wanna donate to the cause
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BakaSan
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 1:07 am     Reply with quote
C'mon! What does it take to get people to coment on my stuff! Is anyone even looking at it?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 2:02 am     Reply with quote
I quite like it, it has a spooky quality that I like, good work.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 2:04 am     Reply with quote
not too shabby. crit huh? ok

start with the background. i actually like the look of it, but it isnt "painterly" at all. it just looks like some strokes with the paintbrush and a ripple filter. again, i like it but to get a more painted look, use some custom brushes, more transparent washes, and in different colors. it helps give more texture.

the tabletop is excellent, nice depth and texture.

the bottom portion of the table is the same as the wall. i like it, but it could use more colors/texture.

the floor is way out of perspective and a little dark.

the figure:

there are some minor things in the anatomy. his head is too round. there are more planes and recesses on the head than that. also, if it's body paint, and not a body suit, he needs toes and... ...*ahem* "bits and peices".

overall though, the anatomy is good. the "body paint" skeleton actually hurts it though. the two bones in the forearm dont cross like that and the skull doesnt look like a skull

also, when imagining putting body paint on, i would think that you would put it on the outside of the arms, not the front. on the upper arm, i think the paint should be pushed out and flattened more, like it's on the side, but that may be me. does that make sense?

the lighting on the paint is also off. it wouldn't be all white, like on "his" left shin, that should be in shadow.

the lighting in general is very dark, darker than it should be. his cast shadow wouldnt be that dark. the yellow wall is a bright color and would reflect light back at him. i see you reflected some on the tabletop, but there needs to be yellow secondary light on "his" right ribcage and arm. on the legs too.

overall, great peice, i like the subject and mood, you just need to work on the details.

SporQ

oh, and it's very easy to lose a post to the swarm that is the sijun forum, so don't take it personally.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 3:21 am     Reply with quote
Thank you for the comments
SporQ: ThankYou! about the wall, you hit almost right on the head. but I only have a mouse :*( . ah thats just an excuse. ill keep that in mind.
i thought the floor came out well
about the toes, i cant draw bare feet well, so, um ill just call it ....artistic liscence. or something. and the "bits and pieces"are in the shadows of his left leg
i think when the wrist is turned like that they do cross (or i have a bad anatomy book) so it was on purpose, and so was the skull.
good point on the lighting. i think the yellow on the table was kind of unintentional.
Thank you for taking the time to coment.

here is a new version, (done before these oments) i decided the glowing heart was kinda lame, and i changed some other things
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 5:26 am     Reply with quote
more of a halloween pic then a valentine pic if u ask me..hehe
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 5:30 am     Reply with quote
Need a tablet, eh? If you're old enough, get a job. It's the fastest way to be able to get things. Yes, work sucks, but on the other hand, this is NOT a very charitable world. Otherwise ask for it for some holiday or birthday present.

As for the pic, not bad, shows some aptitude... the ripple filter is questionable because we can see it as a ripple filter... and the color scheme is certainly glum, but you might be going for that... a tablet will offer you a lot more, but don't expect miracles, technique is key.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 8:28 am     Reply with quote
SporQ gave some good crits, got nothing to add. Except this is a weird and original concept, which i like.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 8:44 am     Reply with quote
don't like the drawing at all, but baka-san is a excellent nick! :)



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 7:23 pm     Reply with quote
Heh... Kind of reminds me of the VooDoo baron from "Live and Let Die" (James Bond). Like he's taking a break between dark rituals involving chickens and snakes. I wish I could contribute a tablet to the cause. Believe me I know your pain. You'll get one eventually and it will make all the difference.

Best.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:58 am     Reply with quote
Thanks All!

travis travis: I have a job, but i have to pay for school (and my damn computer). im hoping to get one for graduation. yes... technique....im still new to this painting thing, and drawing isnt my strong suit. Thanks.

faustgfx: thanks about the name (do you know what it means?). what dont you like, if you dont mind saying?

Again, thanks to everyone
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2001 8:56 am     Reply with quote
idiot-sir. i could be wrong on the sir-bit though.

can't view the image now, but i just didn't like it is what i'll say now that i can't see it but remember that i did not like it when i saw it.



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:31 am     Reply with quote
the skeleton does not look painted on to be. it looks like an attempt to show the inside of the figure. and to me that makes the piece not work bucuase even if that was your intention,(wich i know it was'nt) it does'nt look right. sadly i have no idea about how to fix this. and it may only be me who sees it like this. it looks a lot better without the heart-and it does look more like a hollween piece. over all i still like it so don't give hope. oh and did you say that was done with a mouse? if so you NEED a graphics pad.
just my thoughts
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2001 10:18 am     Reply with quote
somehow I see Romeo and Juliet (leonardo Dicaprio version)

I think for a mouse this is a very good peice.. needs a little work in lighting but Im not gonna go into that now. Im supposed to be working. <

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 3:01 am     Reply with quote
Wow! this is the most replies i have gotten.
Thanks everyone.

Faustgfx: yeah, its Mr. Idiot/Mr. Fool

Biggun01: thanks. I suppose there are some problems with it, but for the most part, i like how the skeleton turned out.
Yeah, i know, but i dont forsee getting one for at least annother month.

Awetopsy: Thanks. i agree about the lighting. it seems to me to be different on the face than the rest of it, and some other problems. and i think there was someone painted like a skeleton in romeo+juliet

Thanks all!
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