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Liquid MTL · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2001 3:31 pm

hey alright already hahah maybe next time i should cut you up! hahah ............ not! really i loved this pic, the pencils and the colouring, and plus its from FINAL FANTASY!!! isnt that enuff motive for what i said ahhah again nice job liquid! and joe mad! swwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

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Liquid! · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2001 3:38 pm

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Originally posted by Chapel:
I feel the same way about coloring, but unfortunately there are not many forums that I can get a serious critique to help me improve. So, I post them here. I feel that I have shown I could do other things (not that great), but I have at least attempted. But hey.. if you got it.. flaunt it.

I know what you're saying. However, my general philosophy is that as you hone your general drawing skills, your 'coloring' will automatically improve. Coloring is an extension to some degree of painting/drawing, not a discipline in and of itself...

I guess this is arguable, but its just my view on it.

-c

Chapel · member Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2000 Posts: 1930

quote:
Originally posted by Liquid!:
I know what you're saying. However, my general philosophy is that as you hone your general drawing skills, your 'coloring' will automatically improve. Coloring is an extension to some degree of painting/drawing, not a discipline in and of itself...

I guess this is arguable, but its just my view on it.

-c

I'm actually hoping the opposite. I've always struggled with coloring, so I'm hoping if I can get better at it my drawing will improve. In a way it has helped because I can spot several things in drawings now that I couldn't before. I just can't figure out why I can't correct my own drawings.

Dark Entity · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2001 4:49 pm

I guess my question is how much in general do you get paid for a magazine cover? I'm sure you can't say this piece specifically (there's probably some NDA I'm sure), but in general.

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Vortx · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2001 6:39 pm

Don't go outta your way for that high-res image Chris. I actually messed around w/ it in photoshop and got it to a pretty high res w/out loosing too much quality (my girlfriend runs a print shop....i want her to print this image for me...it's just so damn cool...i'm a die hard FF fan).

Please, drop by again when you get the time. This time i'm bring my comics for you to sign...eheh =)

Yes, Ed is awesome. You should see his recent character designs for this female figure. So stop by!! And Chuck W. is here now too....i think you know him as well...

Anyways, great work....of course. People like you inspire me to get good....

Hey, can you give me your e-mail again....i won't misplace it this time =) [email protected]

ttyl..

-feng

CapnPyro · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2001 6:56 pm

I'll grab this one!

I've heard it's around $4,000-6,000, Im not sure how theyd do it for multiple artists, though

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The few times I have posted others (PSM_SOULREAVER, EVE_TRADE, PSM_FFX) I thought people might enjoy it for the difference in technique. However, I doubt I will do that in the future again.

I've enjoyed seeing your print Just so long as you hang around, I suppose

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Liquid! · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2001 7:16 pm

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Originally posted by CapnPyro:
I'll grab this one!

I've heard it's around $4,000-6,000, Im not sure how theyd do it for multiple artists, though
I've enjoyed seeing your print Just so long as you hang around, I suppose

LOL. Nowhere near that for us. Wait a second! ...Maybe I need to TALK TO JOE!!

FENG - Cools! Glad to hear it, let me know though.

"...to get good" - you ARE GOOD!

I just wish you could post more of your stuff!

I'll drop you an email.

CAP - I really like hanging out here, but I really want to get better at drawing, rather than focusing on just coloring. Nothing wrong with coloring, just sort of the day job. I haven't seen you post in a while tho...

-c

CapnPyro · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2001 8:45 pm

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LOL. Nowhere near that for us. Wait a second! ...Maybe I need to TALK TO JOE!!

lol, pesky money grubbin pencillers!

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CAP - I really like hanging out here, but I really want to get better at drawing, rather than focusing on just coloring. Nothing wrong with coloring, just sort of the day job. I haven't seen you post in a while tho...

you should put up some pencil sketches and regular drawings too, in addition to your wacom creations, that is if you do pencil stuff. recently.. heh, yah.. I did this angel thing about a week or so ago, Im just finishing up a sequential I'll hopefully put up later tonight

[Edit: UBB Code owns me]

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Seraphire · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2001 1:24 pm

Oops,

Sorry about that Chris. I didn't mean to direct the joemad, thing at you. It was to reassert what you said and a little more, towards the people who initated the question. My bad. And the reason for the focus on inks, is becuase Townsend posts there so much I think.

I think the action of a colorist is an artform. It is simply part of a colaboration. A single artist doesn't have to work on something to make it art. Many people can be involved. And coloring is more then just filling in the shapes. If it wasn't, then everyone would color the same.

Chapel, Have you tried doing any pencils now that you've been coloring for awhile? Coloring sure hasn't helped mine. They've gone to hell, without the practice. Probably should do qestures, before coloring, too.

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Chapel · member Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2000 Posts: 1930

seraphire: I posted some quick pics in the "Work in Progress" forum the other day. Nothing spectacular though.

Duckman2 · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2001 1:52 pm

I normally hate anime drawings they are usually to cutsey but these charachters are badass. Good shit

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Liquid! Holy cow man, I'm not into anime but I would if more had that quality. Nice work!

CapnPyro · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2001 3:02 pm

... it's not anime...

Shotgun Shelly · junior member Member # Joined: 09 Feb 2001 Posts: 7

WOW!!! Liquid!, could you explain the techninque you used to color this pic?

(how you set up the layers, did the shadows and so on)?

Liquid! · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2001 4:35 pm

Sorry for bumoing this thread again. Just wanted to answer the questions posed...

SERA - Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I was jumping at you.

Shotgun - I believe you should be able to search the forum for that. I think "RINALDO" posted a tutorial a while back.

-c

Dragonfly · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2001 4:52 pm

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Originally posted by Seraphire:
As for joemaduriera.com, well it is joemaduriera.com, not joemadurieraandliquid.com. So it tends to focus on Mad. Everything on the site is done by Blade, Karl, Dragonfly, etc... Joe just posts there, and becuase it is a site devoted to him, he gives imput.

Did someone mention my name?

As for the Mad thing, we'd love to see more stuff like this in the gallery. I think Joe was trying to get us the other copies of his PSM covers without cover logos or text. Then there's all those BC images

Anyway Liquid was registered on the old forums, don't think he posted though? He can always re-register and reply to this thread maybe

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Jerry · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2001 8:05 pm

the picture looks great but they don't look much like tidus and yuna.

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Beardy · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2001 8:47 pm

Friggin great! I simply love it!

Just one one problem..... too many people are saying color. It's colour people

Ben Barker · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2001 11:42 pm

I spell color 'colour' if you spell centre 'center'. And there's only four syllables in 'aluminum'.

Shotgun Shelly · junior member Member # Joined: 09 Feb 2001 Posts: 7

Liquid!, I searched the whole forum & I couldn't find it

Do you remeber how that post is called? Or could you please explain it to me?

Joachim · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2001 7:01 am

liquid, I see Joe Mad hangs around on his own forum, meaning he owns a computer that are online. How about pushing him to come over here ?

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Chapel · member Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2000 Posts: 1930

Joachim: MaD isn't online a whole lot. He usually takes a couple days out of the month to reply to a few threads and catch up on his own forum. Doubt he would make the time to come over here.

Rinaldo · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2001 8:21 am

Shotgun Shelly-
http://www.sijun.com/dhabih/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004912.html

I'm almost afraid to post this...hehe (hard to look at your old stuff with a positive eye). the explenation I give still holds up for me, but more in the technical sense of seperating the layers. I use any method that get's the job done these days in terms of actuialy rendering it, although the logic behind using a shading and cuts layer is sound.
flatting a page is probably one of the most boring things you can do.
someone posted this tut on another messageboard (sorry can't remember who) http://www.island.net/~shadgrap/flat1.html
I think it's pretty good. I sometimes paint in my flats with the pencil tool, but it all depends on what kind of image you have. I haven't flatted a lot of the more painted stuff I've done over pencils becase I like to play with the edges, but for B+W lineart flatting the way to go.
http://www.comiccolors.com probably says it better than what's in this thread.

oops...rambling. I just felt I need to add a bit to what is in that thread. sorry for cramming your thread up with this stuff Chris.

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Shotgun Shelly · junior member Member # Joined: 09 Feb 2001 Posts: 7

Thanks Rinaldo and Liquid!

TheMilkMan · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2001 7:15 am

Joachime how can we get someone like MAD to post here if Dahb doesnt even like his own forum?? where is that guy anyways..sheesh

infinite · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 10:27 pm

That's freakin FF that Joe penciled and Liquid color i Shocked

F...ING SCWHEET!. I can't stop looking at it at the moment its my wallpaper on my computer.

I've been reading this topic and was wandering and wanted ask Q's about it.
-Liquid use PS for this, What version? I've only got 5.5 so is this water color effect still acheivable???

-What brush did ya use as i been going nuts Mad

trying to achieve this look??? I somehow can't get the picture looks as smooth

-This brings me to the third Q's has anyone got/found a tutorial on how to get this FF X watercolor effect or even know how to.

Thanks in advance

Cheers ^_^

I'll post some of my pics colored but my site has bandwidth restriction
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oDD · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 11:27 pm

if you havent notice this thread is over two years old. for tutorials check sumaleth.com/links

Matthew · Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:51 am

This must have been the greatest Bump ever, I mean 2 years.
Well I might aswell bump it too.

Matthew

strata · Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:17 am

holy necromancy batman!
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CwStone · Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:26 pm

Im a big fan of u guys too. Were u at the anime expo last year?

that pic is amazing. I dont really have much else to say.
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