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Get-up Kid
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 4:02 pm     Reply with quote
OK, I hope this works....just something I did in photoshop....critiques welcome!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 4:06 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 4:46 pm     Reply with quote
nice, it's really nice
oh, something. is very strange, what's happend with that shadow on the glass tunnel, or maybe is just me ?

~bizarde

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 6:15 pm     Reply with quote
Bizarde, could you be more specific about the shadow issue?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 9:24 pm     Reply with quote
the crossbeams on the tunnel leave no shadow inside it

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 9:58 pm     Reply with quote
thanks shardik! i can't believe i missed that! it's good to see somebody from my home town...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 11:28 pm     Reply with quote
Looks good. Maybe some more light from below? It seems there is some indicated in that green .. cloud? from below but more highlights would help it stand out. Just my $0.02
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 3:19 am     Reply with quote
cool. different to a lot of stuff we see around here. Nice environment. I like it.

Other than that already picked up by others... Is that tunnel covered in glass? Cause it looks like you inteded it to be, but It hasn't really worked. Perhaps some sort of reflection on the surface of the glass.

helps??

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 6:45 am     Reply with quote
Is there any way you can change it so that it doesn't kick so much ass?

...just a thought.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:37 pm     Reply with quote
Wow, thanks Mike.
Everyone: I'll work on the glass thing...I'm a little sick of this piece right now, though.
Thanks for the comments!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 5:28 pm     Reply with quote
Yeah, my poor english. thanx Shardik for help.
Now i changed a little your pic, hope this will help ...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 6:38 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for the effort, Bizarde. I was envisioning the light to be a lot more diffuse, however. It's a rainy day, and the sun isn't really shining.
As far as the glass tunnel issue, I took a poke at making it work. Successful?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 6:58 pm     Reply with quote
Yeap, but i noticed a very strong source of light which came straight from the camera... oups, i'm still around?!
i still don't feel the rainy weather, maybe some strong highligts will help, i don't know.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 7:49 pm     Reply with quote
Just a thought:

Right now it looks like a scene with a few rain drops falling down in front of the camera. You should make objects in the distance blend more to the background because of the humidity & rain drops in the air. ...fog.

Other than that, I like the picture overall, and also liked the highlights bizarde added to make the surface seem wet. Even if you want the lighting to be diffuse, wet surface tends to have pretty sharp highlights, maybe not as much as bizarde added.

Not sure what to do about the tunnel, maybe a little more reflection to imply there's glass in there.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 10:01 pm     Reply with quote
Prettttttyyyyy. Did you use any 3d model for reference? (the perspective is almost PERFECT).. Very impressive.

The Getup kids are one of the cooler bands in existance right now (and juliana theory).

Ohyah.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 10:30 pm     Reply with quote
I really did have to stare at this in awe for a while. I really am speechless. Okay not quite. =) Lovely texture, great mood, decent composition, flawless perspective... I do so badly wish I could create environments so well. They never do look the way I want to see them when I try.

I hate to admit I'm not crazy about the shade of green for the smog in the background, it seems too saturated in contrast to the rest of the pic, but I suppose it could work here if I stretch my mind a little more (ooowwww).

I'm just glad you didn't decide to put big chunks of icky stuff in the sludge. =)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 12:08 am     Reply with quote
the design is good, i just dont know about the coloring/lighting/shading.. do u have the lineart ?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 1:00 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks, everyone!
Paqman, Get-up Kids rule, and I love Juliana Theory as well!
Yes, I used 3D as an aid in the perspective.
I just didn't feel like laying it all out by hand, and I was inspired by what vortx had done using the same technique..


Shardik, this piece actually started out as a marker rendering that I wasn't happy with(disgusted with, actually). So I decided to mess around with it in PS. I hesitate to show this, but since you asked...


Thanks again to all who took the time to tell me what they thought...all very helpful!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2001 4:44 pm     Reply with quote
DUDE,
It's nice to see you moving your concepts into Photoshop, even if just to play around a little. You can quickly bring a vignette from marker sketch to rendered reality. Everyone keeps picking on your 'glass' tunnel. I, for one, didn't see it as a glass tunnel. And I definitely wouldn't add so much flair to the highlights as previously suggested. Remember, you started the piece with a feeling-an essence, if you will, in mind for the environment. If you add to much glitter, you could lose the balance you have going. AWESOME piece, man...a huge step from your previous work! And I'll get to say I knew ya before ya became famous!
-Pete K.
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