[TheNexx]

OK! This was done as a test just to see if its my rerrable line work that makes my concepts so bad. So I tried to marker somebody else's concept. Please, I gonna hang my self, if I won't get how to use this f%cken markers .


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Dennis Sedov

[Liquid!]

Dennis -

I'm not sure if I going to be able to help. But I used markes 24/7 for 3 years and here's what seemed to work for me.

First off, what markers:

MARKER
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1. TRIA, BEROL, ART, etc are all ALCOHOL based and thus have a pigment saturation point. That is they don't show streaks as much and don't necessarily continue to get darker and darker past a certain point.

2. WATER based markers are trickier, since they show streaking much more readily, however, they also allow for darkening of spots with multiple application. They are also more colorfast than alocohol based markers.

PAPER
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=Photocopy paper - works well for blending.

=Heavier card stock w/ tooth - works well for blending, and application of color pencil over your work

=& Normal other stock

However, these varients are very fleeting in terms of retaining the contrast and brightness of the your work for any reliable long term. In my experience it seems that the pigment travels even hours after application minutely, and thus your colors blend just a tad... thus your original values tend to be off. However, because of the absorbtion of these stocks blending is MUCH easier, and thus you can get nice gradients.

=Special Market paper - This paper can only be used on one side and is treated on the other to prevent the pigment/alcohol from "traveling" to the other side. The colors tend to be more colorfast and your contrast remains better, however its is also more difficult to render things and gradients on this paper.

TECHNIQUE
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Markers are basically very easy. Here are the rules:

1. Start with light first - darker last.
2. For gradients make sure that your paper is still wet with a "layer" of a lighter color and then work the darker on top of that. The liquid medium (in most cases alcohol) will travel and mix and thus bleed into each other for a nice blend.

Phew. That's it. Sure others can contribute to this.

-c

[TheNexx]

Just a very very stupid question : What is a photocopier paper? I use paper from my inkjet printer, is there any difference? And what is photocopier by itself? Is it Xerox thingy in Office Max?

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Dennis Sedov

[Darrin]

I believe Liquid is refering to ordinary computer/printer paper when he refers to 'photocopier' paper.

As for control of the markers, try to avoid small strokes. Go for broad sweeping ones as this helps lay down general tone better.

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I smile every day and I die every night.

[Budoka]

I hear ya Nexx - Feng must get those tutorials up soon or there's gonna be trouble!! Not really sure what that trouble might be but...

I find layout paper best for marker drawings - it shades well and the ink isn't absorbed half as much.

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[Krazy]

hehe i tryed using that thick sketch book stuff and it was like watercolors how much it was absorbed gees....i think nexx uses the same markers as i prisma colors cool and french grey...am i wrong? oh well all i have are the cool greys and i find it a bitch o use guess ill be watching this tread

[TheNexx]

Yeah I use Prismacolor cool,warm and french gray. mostly cool gray

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Dennis Sedov

[TheNexx]

Another thing I found. I tryid to draw on photo paper for printer(glossy one) and it seams to be really cool. You get really deep colors. and since surface is watter proof you can overlay strokes - thus getting bigger variety of tones

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Dennis Sedov

[Speve-o-matic]

Has anyone here ever used Triart markers? Because later this year I start the marker rendering segment of my course and at my college they religeously use Triart markers, and on this forum everyone seems to use Prismacolor . . . anyone know the pro's and con's?

I actually like this "colouring" you've done . . not bad, but not really too much colour in there.

- Steve

[TheNexx]

Well. Its not coloring because I used mostly cold grays. I didn't know how to call that. Markering, Concepting? ))


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Dennis Sedov