[clover]

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My lines are kind of messy... I want to do clean lines but I don't get it right the first time. I also want to improve my proportions. Um, this picture took an hour to do. I'm slow. Any advice on how to be faster?

[ July 25, 2002: Message edited by: clover ]

[the_insider]

hello---well yu certainly have a lot of drive--my suggestions for a much cleaner & smoother pic is--
speed isnt usually the key to being a better artist or wutever, but for sketching in yur case it might be--try to be more loose and not use such little, precise lines--speeding up yur pace can be useful since your more creative side comes out and you're not using yur technical part of yur brain as much--i notice also many smudges...begin with lighter strokes and move up to darker, more solid lines--ne way i dunno if thats wut yu were lookin for

[B0b]

honestly who throws a shoe?

[clover]

I dunno. I'm just drawing stuff out of my house. I'm still an amateur.

[Mharett]

its a good idea though man... something im sure most of us dont do enough is drawing from life, whatever it may be... i know i dont do it enough. about your lines...either that drawing is fairly small or your lead is too big, the lines are all very thick. try to lay down some light thin lines and build up from that. when you draw lighter you can also see what lines look right and which dont.

mhar

[Pigeon]

No one gets their lines right the first time. Unless they've drawn that object thousands of times.

A couple pieces of techique advice, perhaps just rewording some good ideas that have already been mentioned:

Draw light and blobby at first - grab a 2H pencil at the eraser end and roughly block in the shapes. Don't worry about erasing too much, just redraw your light lines till your proportions look right. THEN start putting in details, and finished lines. Work from general to specific

A different way of working is grab a pen or marker, and draw the thing in 30 seconds, accept that it won't look right, then move onto a new sheet of paper. Draw the thing over and over from different angles, looking for different things, like pressing harder where the object is closer, or the values are darker. After 30 quick studies, then go back and try to do longer studies.

Also try drawings that study the mass and value (lights/darks) of the object.

Dean