[Jojo81]

Hello, this is one of my first drawing.
Trying to draw a girl withouth reference..
C6c please



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[ May 05, 2002: Message edited by: Jojo81 ]

[Bare Bonez]

Hello. I'm still learning to see things correctly, but here's some tips that I've been given in the past.

Things that look good are the shading in the cloths, but the lighting could be a bit more consistent.

The posture of the girl doesn't look correct - I'm not good at anatomy, but hopefully someone else will help you out there.

The hairline needs to start higher up. A suggestion would be to start with an image at 1024x768 - colour it then scale it down to say 640x480. The image will be sharper and easier to colour.

I hope these help, but it is a good start and with some more work I'm sure you'll achieve what you set out to do. Good Luck!

[Jojo81]

I tryied to use Loomis book for anatomy and proportions.. could u tell me what exactly doesn't look good?
I tryed to give the skin a 3d look, but I see the results are not good.
What should I do, add more contrast?
I already scaled the image, I actually work at a resolution of 2000*1000. And you other guys at what resolution do you work usually?

[Light]

Al beginners: Search the digital art discussion threads for good information on doing art work or search for my critiques of other work. Must do some work on your own as people will not keep answering same questions.

Suggestions:

1. Study loomis pencil technique

2. Do what I said above for a lot of good suggestions by me other artist.

3. Notice the leg connects to the pelvis in an awkard manner (side view leg, front view torso).

4. Work on sketching for now. Keep practicing.

[bearsclover]

Well, I hope I'm not being too obnoxious, but I did a quick and rather sloppy paintover, of just her face (here).
The proportions are relatively OK, and you are definitely on the right track. Learning from the Loomis book is an excellent way to go. And, it's pretty impressive that you drew this all from your imagination.

The first thing I noticed about your girl was that her eyes were crossed. Both eyes are looking in a little. I think if you start with larger file dimensions (like someone else already mentioned) you wouldn't have had this trouble with the eyes. I also lifted her eyebrows a little, and made her eyes a little bigger. She's still a little wall-eyed, but not too bad.

The other thing is that the nose is a little too long. Not too bad, though. The real mistake you made with the nose (and this is incredibly common, so don't worry about it) is that you made the nose too "delinated". Don't use dark lines (like, near-black lines) to define the nose. The nose is best shaded, not drawn in dark outline. Also, noticed how I widened and enlarged the nostrils just a little. Though you had the nostril size pretty close. I also shortened the nose (gave more space between the nose and top of mouth) just a little. I probably should have shortened the nose more. Making noses too long is also incredibly common. I fight this battle myself all the time.

Also, the lips are too delineated. Dark lines. Don't do that! Soften them up! (I think this problem would also be easier to solve if you started with a larger file.)

The cheeks look too "pudgy", and there are "pudgy" lines around the nose (going down to the mouth). If you look at most people, the lines that go from their nose to mouth are not that close to the nose, and they aren't that noticable. At least not on a young woman, such as the girl you've drawn here.

The face was kind of narrow - you'll see in my paintover that I added a little more jaw and chin to her face. You'll also notice that I added some more forehead (though you hadn't shortchanged her forehead too much) and I gave her a little more hair on top, and on the sides.

I also added a more definite light source (coming from the left side of picture).

I left a lot of things half done, it's still kind of sloppy, but I hope this helps!

Really, I think that many of the problems you had with this picture would be solved if you started MUCH bigger. And you are getting the basic proportions of the figure and face pretty well, and BELIEVE ME, that's a huge deal, and you are already doing OK in this. (So pat yourself on the back.)

Your shading technique (airbrush rendering) is pretty nice, I think. And you use color pretty well (though we all always need to be careful to not stray into "muddy" colors in the face). You just need to practice a little more with drawing people! Overall, you're doing just fine.

[ May 10, 2002: Message edited by: bearsclover ]

[Jojo81]

Light:
Ok, I will check previous threads.
Bearsclover
Thanks a lot for your time!
You really helped me.
I will keep practicing

[Jojo81]

I've fixed the face trying to follow your advices. I tryed to adjust her legs too, changed the color of her dress, added a simple background and retouched here and there.
How bout it now?
Am I getting any better?

[Light]

Check the thread on "wip beauty and beast" just recently for tips on anatomy.

You need to get rid of the clothes. Get rid of the colors. Get rid of background.

These things distract you from making the anatomy correct and a good drawing.

-- my 2 cents

[bearsclover]

Jojo: MUCH better. Very nice. The face is very nice! Wonderful improvement!

The figure is a little awkward, but not bad. You are well on your way, and I can see that you will improve quickly! I like the colors you've chosen. It's a nice figure study. Very nice indeed. The only thing I'd suggest is to get rid of some of the darkest black lines in the clothing. Make them a darkish green or darkish blue, and let them blend in with the rest of the clothing a little more.

No, I disagree with Light, or at least I disagree with what I think he is trying to say. You don't want to get rid of the clothing, you drew her with clothing for a reason, I assume! And the colors you have chosen are fine. You can experiment with other colors and backgrounds with your next drawing projects, but you don't have to do that with this one. This is just fine.

It is, however, a good idea (when you are starting a drawing) to draw the figure underneath, to get the anatomy right, then add the clothing on top. Next time, you can try doing this (if you haven't tried it before)!