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ValarianROOT · Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 11:50 pm

Books seems to be a reoccuring theme in my work recently. (that is if two pieces can constitute enough gues a theme) This is another old sketch i've always wanted to finish. I'm working at trying to incorporate more texture in this piece. Still trying to reach some equalibrium between the figure and the background. Two choices, which is more "appealing"? C and C welcome... Thanks.

JN

Basse_Ex · Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:01 am

Somehow I don't find the lower one appealing at all....

... but the upper one is quite sexy....

...(Or maybe "sexy" isn't the word for it)...

Allen W · Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 5:54 pm

I like the first one much better. In the second one it's hard to see the shape of the guy.

Kaete · Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 7:02 pm

The second is a mess, but the first is incredible!

ValarianROOT · Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 8:03 pm

Thanks a lot all of you. It seems that the first version is winning out so i'll keep working in that direction. The comp I was working on it with crashed during a power outage here about a half hour ago, so of course i haven't saved i a while. So, any crits or comments will help me as I work on it some more. I was hoping i was going to be able to show an update this time. Crap

Thanks,
JN

EviLToYLeT · Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 8:06 pm

INcredible yes. There are some parts that I think need to be developed a bit further. The thing on his back that drapes down after his shoulders. What is that? Hair? .. doesn't seem like its hair... cape? ... too short.. part of its back? his back seems defined by the other line already.

also, The nose area needs a bit fixing. There's a line in the middle of the nose that makes it look like he has two noses.

ValarianROOT · Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:42 pm

OKay... all is good in the world again. My comp is back to normal and here is what progress i've made so far:

I've cleaned it up quite a bit and got rid of the sketch overlay. Hopefully the nose looks better now. As for his back; lets just say he's a cyborg, emulating Destiny.

Enjoy,

JN

powerchild · Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 11:26 pm

I dont know what the emulating destiny means, but I like the piece. especially the first one. Good form and movement in it's pose.

ValarianROOT · Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2002 12:26 am

Destiny is a Character from Niel Gaiman's "Sandman" comic book. "He is the keeper of the Book, which reveals all that is, all that was, and all that shall be. He is known for showing up at crucial moments in time to watch the fulfilment of the book." Thanks for the comment. Am I undersanting that the third cleanedup version is not working out and i should try to stick more with the first try? Please, let me know.
JN
p.s. as further explaination about the Hump on his back: It would be like a backpack/cyborg-attachment built into or covered up by the coat. That's as specific as i'll get.

[ April 07, 2002: Message edited by: ValarianROOT ]

Kaete · Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2002 5:51 am

Mmmm, Sandman refs!

I still like the first one best. All those vibrant lines really bring it to life. But he's easier to see in the third one...

Ah, dilemma.

The Green Man · Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2002 11:54 pm

I agree I like the First one the best, The hair alos reminds me of Guile From Street Fighter 2, but I like it on him as well. My only crit would be that his right hand ( the one Pointing) seems a bit large next to the one holding the book

andreasj · Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 12:58 am

Jesus. That first version blew me away. I�d put just a little more time on the ponting hand, called it finished, bought some booze and celebrated. Wheee.

RavenBlack · Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 2:53 am

quote:
Originally posted by andreasj:
Jesus. That first version blew me away. I�d put just a little more time on the ponting hand, called it finished, bought some booze and celebrated. Wheee.

I also like the first one... second one looked like a black and white preditor view of it... with the heat waves and such... too much change from light and dark but I love the first one. I myself have a real sketchy touch to my stuff. I also see that your from grand rapids, mi too.. are you an art student? kendal college, grcc?

Anyway keep up the good work.

Rav

ValarianROOT · Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 9:27 pm

Hey, thanks!!!
-The Green Man: Argh!!! I see the Guile haircut in this pic everytime i look at it, too. It kind of frustrates me that it looks like that, but I like the way the hair goes with the rest of it so I'm leaving it alone. Also, I made the hand holding the book a bit larger to try to even out the proportion between the two.
-andreasj: thank you, i'll do my best.
-RavenBlack: Thanks, and well... I was an art student a KCAD of Ferris at on time but it was a few years back now...
-Basement bound: Yeah, you know it. Almost all of my friends from school say I overwork my stoff and they like my more "sketchy" work. I just have to keep at it.
And here's another bang at it, mostly just to see what it looks like on the web.

JN

Basement bound · Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 11:50 pm

Stick to the first one, the way that it is the likes have passion, and are so loose. I have noticed that once you start painting things you stiffen up and loose alot of what you had in your sketches. Shame. I am sorry I don't know how to fix that. Perhaps just paint and paint and paint and paint and paint over again like you have been doing it will all come to you. I am sure.

JA

louis finazzo · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 5:56 am

i thought this was Guile from street fighter for a sec.

ValarianROOT · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 11:41 pm

That's it I'm changing the hair... maybe.
JN

Anthony · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 11:53 pm

You mean....its not Guile?!