[Daniel Chou]

Hello all, this would be my official first time picture post in this forum ^^, Anyways,let me introduce myself, my name is Daniel and I was born in Taiwan, but now I live in Ontario Canada. I am 16 years old and looking to pursue a artistic career.

Now, here is a picture I am sort of having trouble with, I cannot decide what type of clothing she will wear. Also if you see any anatomy problem please speak out. Thanks

[Daniel Chou]

Tis ok? oh and your a Superb critist, I want more!!!

[Daniel Chou]

excuse my scan line, too lazy to do it right XD

[Jeasterrealist]

don't mind the lines i'm using a track ball
can't quite aford a nice tablet like everyone here can

i do mostly 3d work anyway but i dabble in the photoshop for painting

i goto school for animation i've heard it all on how chars should look move bla bla bla

at frist it was bullshit to me, now it's alowed me to draw fluider if that makes sence

anyway you're not bad at all 16 you say? you have great potential and with some life drawing classes you'll be fine just watch making things look too flat alot of art i see here is painted really well until i see the image they stole it from

so few people can draw strait from their head thus is true creatism practice that and use images only as reference to grow from and never let references become your work

[Jeasterrealist]

looks like a man

boobs are wrong

you should really look at woman, lots of them her body pose is pretty good

the head kills it with it being too flat

hiding hands usualy indicates a lack of skill. Not saying this is the case for you,but placing the hand on the legg instead of behind it will better deminstrate your skills and give the charecter more life

ears wrong but so is th ehad

the hair is nice i like it but work more with that

you're too stiff with the pose but the hair you where loose transfer the hair stile to the rest of the body


avoid simitrical body poses nobody sits perfectly like that.( with the leggs)

added note the back looks like she has a hump

now you could've drawn this in about 4 secs and if so then it's not bad but I would just put this in your sketchbook and just redraw this figure if you're dead set on going with this girl and that pose

another note.. why is she naked? no clothes? or is it the super tight superhero look or something..

if you added clothes you wouldn't have to worry as much with the boobs but if your'e gonna draw naked woman learn the anatomy.

sorry if it's rippin ya up and i know this is just a sketch but you posted it and i'm replying to it

[ March 17, 2002: Message edited by: Jeasterrealist ]

[Jeasterrealist]

references are fine as long as it's for understanding of it not copying it

this site has a lot of the copying problem.. where their "art" looks completly like the picture.. tracing isn't art

[Joachim]

try to think of the body as more primitive objects in 3d, it can make it easier for you.

[Jeasterrealist]

thanks i dind't have a drawing pad and my thumb just can't do everything my wrist can

but i think you're legg perspesctive is off

[Joachim]

Jeasterrealist, hehe, actually I meant my post for Daniel Chou.
Maybe you are right about the leg, but I really didn't put any thought into that line-over sketch, -it was only meant to explain what I said about thinking in terms of volumetric objects when drawing.

[Drawnblud]

Hey, I like the pic, but everyone is right. She does look like a man. Try outlining the lips and putting lashes on her. The detail in the hair is great and the pose does look pretty good. I, too, draw my characters "naked", then put clothes on them. I find that it is a lot easier that way and something else is, and this is a little naughty, but look at nude magazines like Playboy. Actually, Playboy would be the best, because I don't really consider it porn. It helps you get a better understanding on female form, plus it is easy on the eyes (hehe...). Also, use other magazines. I learned to draw from comics and I learned most anatomy from "Conan" comics. I don't see anything wrong with using references, just as long as you learn from them and you aren't just copying from them. Every reference that I use, I only use once and then that pose is stuck in my head.
Your drawing looks great. Tweak it up a bit and I can't wait to see what it looks like when you are finished!

[Jeasterrealist]

you're illistrations are are the shit btw

loved the gun man cover.. did you work on the game? it wasn't too bad..

[Kaete]

I hate to give conflicting advice, but please don't put her hand on her leg.

"Hiding hands" may be seen as cheating on skill, but the viewer only has to look over to the other hand (which is totally in full view) to see you're not having that problem.

At the moment, she looks like she's pushing off the ground, about to face some bad guy. (BTW, I really like her expression.) If you put the hand on the leg, it ruins the momentum of the picture. Instead of being caught in mid-jump, she'd be sitting down and making weird motions with her arms.

Her right breast is very droopy.

Remember, when drawing women, think CURVY.

As for her back --- eek! That's a very muscule-heavy man's back. Women do have a little bit of muscle there but nowhere near as much. Also, the shoulders could stand being a little slimmer, and her torso a little longer.

I really like her legs and hips.

Here's my take on it:



All in all, a really great pic! Keep up the good work.

[Reed_Richards]

Kaete made some good comments and was right about the placement of the arm, the face has some good expression to it but is flat compared to the rest of the figure
still a good pic tho

[ether]

Hi Daniel

Nice picture there - especially the one with clothes. Kaete is right about the hand - moving it will break the momentum. I noticed a few things:
- Her left upper arm seems to be too short.
- Her jaw and cheek seems to be a man's
- Her neck seems to be too long.

Judge for yourself and keep us posted.

[Jayle]

Seeing Kaete's critique, I was reminded of something. If you are trying to draw something, and something doesn't look quite right about it, hold it up to a mirror and look at it. Find what looks bad in the reflection and you will find what is "off" in the picture.

[Jeasterrealist]

well i just comment on what i liked.. that's all

too much of an animator i guess..

i still dont' get the arm placment it's really not right.. since she's up in the air on her legs for her arm to be where it is .. well it's uncomfortable and needs to lean in more if tha'ts what you want