Sijun Forums :: View topic - My serious go at matte painting, need serious help please!

Capt.FlushGarden · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:37 am

Hey hey! I'm working on this picture, would appreschiate some suggestions, I'm not done with it yet, Got alot of tweeking left before gold version. I'm way lost on the perspective on the stairs, and my friend said something about things not in the same height...
I'll just post the picture and let you guys crit it, thanx in advance!

KOryH · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 10:12 am

Cool,
It's got the right feel, but lacks some technical things. Things to concider... be sure to have complete control over your edges, shadows and form. and the perspective needs to be spot on to pull off the illusion.
Other than thoes two minor yet major things,
I think this is a strong start and won't take much to take it to the next level.
Keep up the good work.

Anthony · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 10:18 am

My ctits the same as before, it needs more consistent lighting, it still looks a little like a videogame, lit from all over. The sun light seems to be very varied all over. For the perspective, I would suggest just building a simple cylinder with a spiral around it and position it in the scene to check the persp. Keep it up!

Bg · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:08 am

Nice to see someone else who is interested in matte painting! Have you checked out this thread, there's some great tips there!

I did an overpaint for ya, dunno if it's helpful, but at least it was fun to do

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Edit: btw. It's good to use image ratio of epic films: 2.35:1 or similar, gives a nice touch..

[ February 21, 2002: Message edited by: Bg ]

zaar · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 1:14 pm

Haha, I am your "friend"

Since you are not online on icq right now, I might as well say what I have to say here:
Bg's overpaint is real nice. The more defined lighting makes it interesting to look at, and the altered aspect ratio makes the composition look tighter and hides some of the perspective issues. But his overpaint looks more like a hazy summer evening, and yours looks like a cold and foggy autumn day (even though the leaves are green it still makes me think of autumn, don't know why), who wouldn't prefer a summer evening over cold and foggy autumn? So Bg might be disqualified for taking an easy route by changing to a nicer whether =) even though it is still a nice image.

Capt.FlushGarden · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 1:43 pm

KoryH, Thank you! I'm struggeling with the dahmn perspective, and the edges that should be sharp are really hard to keep sharp hehe.

Anthony: thank you! I was trying that thing with
consistent lighting, but it looks even more lika painting and not a Matte. About the perspective; I really would use a 3d program to get the right perspective, but the thing is that I don't have any 3d program yet hehehe...

BG; thanx, I really wasn't thinking of the image ratio hehehe, too bad that my favourite part of the painting won't make it in the pic (the top part of the treetrunk)
The light is really nice but as Zaar said I would prefer to keep it the foggy cool autumn feel, but very nice indeed, thank you!

Zaar, buddy, ma main maan! I agree with you about the cold autumn thingy, but he made a nice overpaint for sure!

zaar · Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 11:27 am

ok...? I come back a day later and this post hasn't got a single new post since the last time I looked at it. BUMP dammit... I was looking forward to see what people might have to say about this.

Capt.FlushGarden · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2002 8:32 am

Hehe, well Zaar my friend sometimes you're just not that lucky =(. But I'm really happy with the crits I've got from you guys! thanx!

strata · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2002 8:51 am

I'll say it again, smashing image m'boy!

Capt.FlushGarden · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2002 12:24 am

Strata! thank you. Are you Micke Alm perhaps?

strata · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:51 am

Ah, he's on to me! My cover has been blown. =)

yes, that would be me cap'n

Anthony · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:08 pm

Hey, weren't I talking to you on ICQ once? I thought you were the other Micke at first

strata · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:03 am

ehm no.. it was via mail... I think it was about the collection of the sijun tutorials, or the loomis project or something like that =)

but yap! Surprised you remember! =D

Anthony · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2002 12:56 am

My brain remembers stuff like that, instead of where I put my keys

You make any progress John? I wanna see the finished version!

strata · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2002 3:40 am

ah, you mean the important stuff ;D

anyways, yeah I wanna see an updated version too cap'n.

Capt.FlushGarden · Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2002 9:04 am

dudes! I*m working on it but I have the file at work right now so I can't post it =(