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PixHortHiT member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 268 Location: The part of sweden closer to hell
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 5:41 am |
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Ok fresh from the mill this piece is, very pleased with the water I am. But the dunes look weird I think...
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arkoh member
Member # Joined: 10 Nov 2001 Posts: 134 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:30 am |
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Honestly... it looks as if you have lost focus here somewhere!
I have this believe that the image somehow must tell me its story on its own, that no explanation should be neccesary. I couldn't really determine your object of focus here... was it the emptyness, the crash, the little metalcannister in the bottom or what?
Well I was somehow able to figure it out, but if its the story of this alien crashlanding on earth, I somehow need more focus on that, for me to be interested! More detailing, another framing of the pic, Zooming in etc ... there's simply to much Space around where "nothing" happens! If its on the other hand is the emptiness you're after, then the picture is simply to flat / no depth to tell this story with enough attitude, so the viewer wouldn't loose interest!
I believe alot of your problems with this pic, has something to do with the point of view you have chosen! You have chosen perhaps the most difficult point of view to make the drawing come to life, with depth in particular but also contrasts and tension! I would personally place myself alot lower than this! Getting more depth in the drawing that way... the alien/Pilot in the foreground, The dunes in the midsection and the ship in the water in the background!!!
I agree with you, the water looks like alot of work has gone into it... looks really good!! The composition man, thats where the trouble is, first of all!!! Not the art itself!!!
Lookin forward to seing the progress!!! |
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PixHortHiT member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 268 Location: The part of sweden closer to hell
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 11:16 pm |
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Yes I can see it now, hmm, dammnit I have too start over on this one, or may be not... |
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dkimblad member
Member # Joined: 13 Dec 2001 Posts: 73 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 11:31 pm |
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Just a little thing I noticed. The shadow from the "thing" falling on the water looks wrong. Clear water (which it appears to be) hardly recieves any shadows at all. The light goes on through the surface. Only muddy waters get notable shadows.
Work on a reflection instead.
Also the fog seems a bit too solid. It stops so abruptely just behind the "thing".
I like pic though. I think it has a great feeling of melancholy.
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Akukage member
Member # Joined: 13 Oct 2001 Posts: 51 Location: SE Michigan
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 11:38 pm |
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the dune on the far right looks odd the rest are fine. the shadow of the alien should be a bit fuzzy. & it could stand to have a little croped of the left side. as for the ship in the water it looks good, but the patch in the ships shadow should reflect the portion above water. The portion of the ship under water shoul bend slightly out of line with the portion above water (parallactic shift). & I would add 'micro dunes' showing the foot step path of the alien. but still a damn fine picture |
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PixHortHiT member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 268 Location: The part of sweden closer to hell
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 11:53 pm |
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I thank you for your good advise, The "fog" as you call it is really the remnants of some clouds I did in the early stages of the picture, but I thought it looked like crap and erased it with a soft brush leaving this fog like thing.. |
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specialbrew member
Member # Joined: 24 Dec 2000 Posts: 83 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2002 12:49 am |
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I like the impression of distance you've achieved in this picture; there's only a couple of things I'd comment on. Some elements, like the horizon line, and where the downed starcraft's hull meets the water, need to be parallel - imagine a 3D grid transposed over the groundplane, and you'll see that these have to be correct for the perspective to work correctly. I've tried to give an idea of how the starcraft could be amended in the picture below.
Secondly, I'd also maybe try toying with scale, i.e. maintain the robot figure's size but make the starcarft absolutely enormous, dominating the horizon, so there's a real contrast between the two elements.
sb
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PixHortHiT member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 268 Location: The part of sweden closer to hell
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2002 2:12 am |
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good advise. |
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