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Drawnblud
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2002 11:00 pm     Reply with quote
I have two pictures that I'm working on and since this has always proven to work for me in the past, please look at these pics and let me know what you think!!!





Thanks everyone!!
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SporQ
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2002 11:39 pm     Reply with quote
first of all, i'd take it easy on the watermarks. nobody here will steal your work, and even if they wanted to, those watermarks can be erased pretty easily. if you are really concerned about it, there is software that embeds invisible watermarks in your images.

that said, i like these two a lot. very good character and details. i would suggest varying the line weight. it will help to add depth and contrast to your images.
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flipside
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2002 11:44 pm     Reply with quote
Ooh, I love line-art.


Very nice work you've done there.. I wish I could do clothing for my figures.. :P Hmpf. How do you do it? I mean.. Do you take all the clothes off your mind, or do you have any reference or whatever?

You may want to use different line weights.. Like.. A thicker outline, etc. I have something that *might* work as an example, tho I'm not really good at it myself.. I'm just aware that line art 'pops' more out with different line weights

Some line art of my own..

I think your pictures will look great colored. Are you going to do that?

Looking forward to seeing an eventual update
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:10 am     Reply with quote
If these two pieces are supposed to be line art only, then I'd say vary your line weight. Good line art has thin and thick lines. There are also blunt and tapered lines.

General rule of thumb-- where the light hits, you have thin lines. Thick lines goes to the shadow side. Also, thick lines for things that are closer, and thin lines for things that are further.

And remember, you don't have to just use lines. You can also have solid blacks as well.

Here's an old piece of mine from 94' to show you what I mean. This is from the first issue of Enchanted: Book One- Initiation. It's inked with winsor Newton series 7 brushes and crowquill on hot-press 1 1/2 ply bristol board, with waterproof india ink. The original size was around 8 1/2 X 13.1.

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Drawnblud
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 8:25 am     Reply with quote
Thanks everyone! I guess I should've said that these are going to be coloured, but thank you for the advice on the line-weights. I'm not a trained artist, so what would be the best tools to use for the different line weights? Obviously, a pen and ink, but what tip sizes would you guys recommend?
Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 8:49 am     Reply with quote
I would recommend sizes 2~5 brushes. The more skilled you become, the larger you go. A kickass inker can draw hair-thin lines with a friggin' mop.

Use Winsor Newton series 7 watercolor brushes, or something equavalent in quality. You absolutely get what you pay for, so if you want quality, you need fork out the bucks. Also, india ink corrodes the hair on the brush easily, so wash thoroughly after inking. Never dip the brush all the way in the ink. Dip only about half way. Some people even put hair conditioner in it, shape the brush to a point, THEN dip it in ink.

For nibs, use whatever nibs you feel comfortable. I tend to stay away from nibs because I prefer the organic feel of brushed lines.

There is actually a book on inking whih collects techniques from famous comic book industry inkers. I forgot the exact name, but ask around and you'll find it. I think the cover is A Steve Rude drawing of Nexus.
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Indian_Prophet
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 8:59 am     Reply with quote
Nice work.

You should use in combo anything from .25-.9 pen tip size. I use to use the expensive mechanical pens (19.00 ea) that you refill the ink in but I always somehow managed to get those clogged. You can use Micron pens too which vary in sizes from .25 to .9 and cost 2 or 3 bucks each. Lunatiques method is a nice way to too, you probably will get better consistancy going his method but you'll pay a pretty penny for those brushes and india ink. I would say if you are just starting out, get a few micron pens at your local craft and art store and ink away. If you like the results and want to pursue further you can upgrade to the professional style. If you hate the feel of the micron pen look, then buy one or two crowquill pens and a bottle of water-proof ink and find an ink brush for the large areas.

This is the route I have went in certain projects and may differ from the more experienced.

peace
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 5:58 pm     Reply with quote
I like them, the only problems that I see are the faces. The shapes and where all the parts are just don't look right to me.

JA
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