Sijun Forums :: View topic - A mouthy fish with some subaquatic problems...

Jolyon · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 7:24 am

Hi everyone ... ok I have a problem... the fish doesnï¿½t look like itï¿½s underwater... ARGH!... Iï¿½ve been trying to fix it for ages but it looks sooo weird ( and yes I know itï¿½s unfinished, I wanted to get the enivronment right before I finished the ickle fishy)

Any pointers or paint overs would be great thanks!

Hereï¿½s a preview of a character Iï¿½m designing for a 3d short.

any comments?? Thanks everyone, keep yer hoops froody...

BlackPool · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 11:22 am

Hi, Jolyon, a couple of things you might try is making the scene a lot more diffused. Think of your scene being in a thick blue fog.

And adding some bubbles might help too

Steven Stahlberg · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 2:24 pm

Ok, you asked for an overpaint, I was inspired and I had some time to spare, hope it helps you. The image should speak for itself, basically you had two problems, your shading isn't reflecting diffuse bluish light coming from above, and you didn't have enough blue fog in the scene, as remarked by Blackpool. Oh, and by the way, you never see specular highlights under water.

[ January 07, 2002: Message edited by: Steven Stahlberg ]

Pro · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 4:19 pm

Looks great Steven! How did you get the blue fog look? And the water ripples from above?

Steven Stahlberg · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:44 pm

Thanks!

The fog? I picked a darkest color, and kept that for the darkest closest places, then almost a monochrome shading from there up to the lightest color, and making the darkest darks lighter further back.
The ripples? Paintbrushed with the lightest color, then a faint touch of big airbrush over it.

Indian_Prophet · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 6:42 pm

ah Steven, the painting itself has a nice creature design and you just gave it what it needed to have a punch. If I may, are you getting inspired to do a color piece yet?

hehe
Peace

Steven Stahlberg · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 9:55 pm

Thanks Indian_Prophet. (Yes I did a color piece recently, "Jetty" in the Finished forum, sorry Jolyon for going off-topic)

Jolyon · Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2002 1:32 am

Hi, thanks for the advice. I have to say colour is something Iï¿½m rather new too. I havenï¿½t studied it either, as you can probably tell. I used to mainly use pencil and fine black pens so getting into using a wacom has been excellent. Donï¿½t worry about going off topic, I just wanted to ask if you could post the image again, I get a bad link in my browser when trying to view the image you painted... so thatï¿½d be great

(By the way Steven, have been an admirer of your stuff for years! Great work! And Pro, love the stuff on your site!)

Jolyon · Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2002 1:42 am

Sorry ...sorry, talking bollocks again. The image is fine, just my weird and wonderful computer being itï¿½s usual self

Love the image, I can see what you mean looks grrreat. Iï¿½m inspired to have a go again. I canï¿½t believe how off I was. Now itï¿½s all so obvious... doh! These forums are such brilliant ways to improve, theyï¿½re incredible, I take my hat off to Dhabih and all of you for doing such a good job. Iï¿½ll take my tongue out of everyoneï¿½s arse as soon as Iï¿½ve explained why itï¿½s in there (yuck) Iï¿½ve seen peopleï¿½s work on the internet for a while and tried to get in touch about techniques etc, but as of course everyone is extremely busy with millions of e-mails it must be difficult to reply to most of them, and iï¿½m stuck in the South of spain (How terrible) and there really arenï¿½t that many people interested in digital art so I have no other people around me that can inspire, criticise and help me develop. At least here you can see peopleï¿½s pictures and give great advice. Love this place... Cheers