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stereophoenix · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 6:49 am

hey folks.
ok, i think ive got the basic layout all done and the main shapes filled in. now, i just got to add the details *shudder*. i just thought it would be nice to get some comments before i started the details. are the colours to desaturated? too monochromatic? does the waterfall look convincing enough? y'know, stuff like that.. maybe some tips on adding details/textures.
thanks for looking.

docfunkalot · member Member # Joined: 08 Aug 2001 Posts: 78

its going good, but the dragon looks nice. Give hime some teeth

jabber · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 10:36 pm

im not sure, it looks like the 2 are talking. i mean, if a dragons head has gotten that close to u, would u just stand there like that?

i think it really looks like the dragon is talking to that guy or something.

Shaded · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 2:40 pm

Thats a really nice composition! Ive been struggling with a dragon of my own here, so tell me, how will you paint your own reptile?

Jezebel · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 4:12 pm

This is looking great! I really like it.

I'm not sure what is going on in the scene though. Is the dragon supposed to mean? If so maybe you could give him a little more of a snarl and lower his "eyebrows" a smidge?

Andrew Crocker · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 9:15 pm

you convinced me to register. i have to reply to this.

it looks great. only two things i can suggest. the upper jaw looks a little short, like he might have an overbite. and to make him look more 'evil' add some horns.

stereophoenix · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 12:45 am

doc: ahh yes, the teeth. just added them

jabbber: you're right. i played with the pose a little bit. how does it look now?

xor · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 9:26 am

looks awesome so far. though, the teeth don't look as threatening as they could. The current set, i think, would work nicely with some well placed and intimidating fangs. It would go well along with the dragons facial expression.

i guess, think of it as a k9 set of teeth.

-xor

Shiro_tengu · Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2001 12:14 am

yeah thats the pose he would have as he shits himeself bigtime!!!

Manik Monkei · Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2001 2:39 pm

I just realized what is making the dragon non-threatening to me (I like the pic, btw). His lower jaw is directly underneath the upper, which would be ok if his mouth were closed. Remember that the jaw swing open in an arc from the joint. So I would suggest either bringing in his lower jaw or extending his upper jaw/snout.

Good luck finishing it up.

[ December 12, 2001: Message edited by: Manik Monkei ]

stereophoenix · Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2001 1:33 am

thanks
but ive already finished it a while ago

i realised the problem with the jaw, hopefully its fixed now.
heres the link to it in the finished gallery http://www.sijun.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=005752
again, thanks for all the suggestions/tips.

Anthony J · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 12:30 am

i think i do monochromatic stuff too much...

i dig your dragon pic
work on it more and post
snarl that dragon
make em mean and make the guy scared, but sort of ready to battle...haa !! imagine fighting a dragon ..damn you'd be a snack.

Maxmike · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2001 10:26 pm

Hey, I just noticed sleightly askew draconic facial proportions and thought I could help:

Ok, the snout is curved upwards at the base of the mouth, and then the nose slands down and to the left when the lower jaw goes straight. You may want to tilt the end of the nose to the right (your right, and rotate I mean) another thing you can try (after doing the last step) is elongate the front teeth sleightly, sharpen them, and then widen the tip of the snout a bit.
The eyes also convey a cross-eyed appearance. You should probably adjust the one on the dragon's right hand side's eye. add a bit more black near the edge of the white and it should be good. You can see more of the (dragon's) right eye's white to one side then the left and the right eye is both farther away, and a quarter concealed on each side.
About the neck (where the lower jaw connects iwth the side of the screen.) you might want to sleightly pull the neck's skin up towards the jaw, defining the jaw a little more and giving the dragon a more fierce and sleek feeling. elongate the snout a little when it is all done and you should be set! (not too much though, the nose thing and the neck thing should fix this for the most part, but I think the extra five millimeters could make the difference.

Maxmike · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2001 10:28 pm

Hehe, did not read all the posts. sorry.

Maxmike · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2001 10:32 pm

Aww, I just read my post... it is full of typos... anyway, I think its still sound advice

nite all.