[worthless_meat_sack]

I go out and do one of these things a day now. Every day, without fail. It is a nervous tick. It is very valuble, and kicks my ass constantly. You have to remain on your toes and think hard and fast. I am still struggling with the freaking oil paint. If ever there was a medium designed to run me insane.

I just need a batch of unsuspecting tourists to foist em on. heehe.

On the signs of the apocalypse front, Thomas Kincade is now doing plein air paintings.

[Briareos]

You live on the coast you lucky bastard?

Nice oils, I gave up on them, its on to acrylics for me.. wet on wet oils was a bitch.

I really like from the rock down, the colors are a bit funky but gosh darn it, they work!

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Mention Kincade again and I'll kick your ass.. j/k hes really a good painter, just the stuff he paints to make cash is puke.

[ June 23, 2001: Message edited by: Briareos ]

[Lunatique]

Thomas Kincade paints plein air. . .. And WHERE are these ethreal, glowing, Edouard Leon Cortes-esque rip-off settings? In never-never land?

Man, you are too hard on yourself. Look at all those variations in colors you managed to get in there. Especially love the dabs of lavender.

I was wondering where you had gone. I see you are using this handle again. . ..

Hey, you gonna try the water-soluable oils? I use the Artisan from Winsor Newton, and they are REALLY convenient. I can't tell the difference at all. It smells the same, feels the same, paints the same, and dries just a tad faster.

[Prometheus-ANJ]

The purple shadows may be a bit too purple, it took a while before I understood they were shadows.
I like the water best, the green and blue tones seem very accurate, especially the green tone.
Have you ever tried acrylics? Since acrylic paint dries so fast it's possible to work in transparent layers and experiment, paint over, etc. You can also mix the paint into a toothbrush (a cheap airbrush) and get a lot of cool textures and graduations that way. I use these silly Citadel colors form Games Workshop and some Humbrol Fantasy colors. Kinda amateurish perhaps but u can still do a lot with them
Anyhow, good luck with your oil painting!

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After reading the other replies I'm a little confused, I think the purple shadows looks a bit too saturated, especially the brighter tones (I took off my glasses and looked at the "blurred" pic).
I also think that the center cliff could be a bit more grey, cuz that's the color the eye expect a rock to have, even tho it may be brown in reality. As an artist you have the ability to alter details you don't like, making it look better than reality... or atleast try to.

[ June 24, 2001: Message edited by: ANJ-77 ]

[Leon]

Nice spooge... keep doing those oils! no crit from me.. i suck

[feebsaint]

The more I learn about colors, the more I load my pants, when I see works by artists like you.

... not that there are any artists like you.

[burn0ut]

the water in the shadow looks awesome...
the picture reminds me of when i was younger me n my family would go to laguna beach and climb on these rocks, and when the tide was low you could go out further on the rocks, and we found a small octopuss stuck in the low tide under a rock! and it started sprayin ink in the water n stuff...
then we would go climb up the cliff that was behind us... ahhh memorys....

[Tinusch]

If you used your spooge account, this thread would be well over 30 replies by now...

I love that painting. I'm amazed at how you managed to get so many colors into it but make it look so realistic. It's just perfectly balanced. Awesome.

[Joachim]

looks great, me wants to do that too Very nice with those blue/purple tones in the ambient areas on the water.

[Icannon]

i really love this painting. it's so simple and manages to tell so much- and the colors are incredible. the deep green rolling wave and purple shadows are great :]

[Roy Batty]

The purple you used in the shadows is fantastic. I agree that its a little too saturated but imho it doesn't look out of place at all.

[Tiger Eaten]

I have a very low appreciation for landscapes and an even lower tolerance for oils. I imagine its because I've spent quite a bit of time staying in cheap motels along the cost of Maine. Lots of 10 dollar oil paintings up on those walls, I barely notice them any more than I do the curtains. I almost clicked the back button this work as it came up, just out of reflex.

I didn't however and what made me stop and what did it, was bottom center, the tide pool with the delicate ring of foam surrounding that particular shade of brown. That portion of your painting....you got me. There is life there.

[dr . bang]

meatsack, i've always been wondering whether painting traditionaly and digital gives you the same learning values? Or you paint traditionaly because your computer is too big to carry outdoor, and you have to bring the brush instead?

Anyway, i think this piece is great! Every stroke and very well thoughtful and planted, i especially like the dark sea covered by huge wave. I have one question though, why is the purple shadow there? It looks kinda weird. Should it be more blue?

[Spooky]

Very nice! I find the colors and the textures a pleasure to look at. I miss the traditional media and will get back to doing it some day when I'm not so busy at my day job that turns into my all day job! :-) Can't wait to see more as they certainly are a breath of fresh air (so to speak) from the bots, ghouls, and babes.

[janne]

yeah, i'm with joachim. love those splotches of color in ambient places. hmm, ok actually other colors are spot on too... that purple just is special because i wouldn't ever dare to put that there in my painting in fear that it wouldn't work.

janne.

[sear]

ditto on janne.
powerful.

[worthless_meat_sack]

Thanks to all for taking the time to write some things here.

Briareos- I live near the beach, but not for long. I will be homeless soon. Yes, oils are such a pain, but that REALLY big value range is what is keeping me at it. I have a friend who roomed with Kincade at ACCD. Plain old guy. He liked to paint western book cover scenes back then. He can’t afford to anymore, ironically enough.

Lunatique- You like this one? Really? Cool! I thought you were gonna ream me out on this thing. I went to the edge and stared at the abyss… And I think Cortes is not a real artist. He is a pseudonym that some galleries (interchangeable with Galien La Loue) were using to give a sexy shiver to some gouache sketches done by some Disney artists. There were criminal investigations. I may be wrong, though. Could have been another artist. It is funny, you see the dates for the paintings of around 1890 and you look at it and it is painted on cresent cold press with acrylics.

I might try the modern inventions with oil eventually, including synthetic pigments. But for right now, there are so many variables flying around that I am overwhelmed. One thing at a time.

Burnout- I am glad that I was specific enough with the southern California topography J

ANJ-77- I painted with acrylics for a long time and that is not where it is at for me. The value range and endless possibilities in manipulations with oils are what is getting me started down this road. The colors are PUSHED as hard as I can. Reality was quite a bit grayer. I should think I would step over the line from time to time with different people. If I did not, I am not experimenting enough. I will eventually become quite a bit more subtle.

Leon- did you get your precious photos?

Feebsaint- I just cranked up the sat in PS… Just kidding. Thanks

Tinusch- that is why I am meat sack. I don’t think people were seeing my work for what it was as spooge. Either too good or too bad.

Joachim- grab Micke and do some. Don’t you have about 18 hours of daylight this time of year? Thanks for picking up that head thread for me.

Icannon- thanks for seeing the simplification of shapes. My usual approach is to play up edges. But here I was doing a kind of exaggerated local color that makes the shapes very clear. No lost edges, everything is quite recognizable in silhouette and value and color. Different for me.

Roy Batty- glad you like my purple. Please don’t kill me

Tiger Eaten- **sniff** that is the nicest thing I have heard in a long time. Yes, I do get a lot of stares from people when I paint crap like this, but there is something left to be said. I had thought it as just an exercise, but could there actually be… art… in there somewhere? Naw.

Bang- I think oil painting is like a very finely tuned race horse. It responds to the slightest command, is a little dangerous, is not forgiving, and you never know where you might end up. These are positive qualities that I never anticipated when I started painting with oils. I do think that dealing with the paint when you are trying to learn drawing and values and color at the same time can be a little overwhelming. Two ways to learn- through them in the pool, they will be motivated to learn fast, or break it down into easier steps. Depends on the person, I guess.

Spooky- glad you see some value in them!

Janne- do it, esp in digital. You have nothing to loose.

Sear- glad you like it. This is actually a little more toward your way of thinking than my usual stuff.

[Frost]

(Craig: "homeless soon"? what...! something I'm not getting?)

[Lunatique]

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And I think Cortes is not a real artist. He is a pseudonym that some galleries (interchangeable with Galien La Loue) were using to give a sexy shiver to some gouache sketches done by some Disney artists. There were criminal investigations. I may be wrong, though. Could have been another artist. It is funny, you see the dates for the paintings of around 1890 and you look at it and it is painted on cresent cold press with acrylics.


Leon- did you get your precious photos?

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Wow. I didn't know that. I see his work auctioned all the time. Haha. Acrylics on cold press. That's just hilarious!

Your Bladerunner quote cracked me up. Talent and wit. tsk tsk.