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gowansy · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2001 1:22 pm

I have Photoshop 5.0 and recently purchased an Intous 6 x 8, however tbh i dont have a fucking clue how to colour, what brushes, sizes, colours for skin etc. i should use......sketching is easy, just that damn colouring!
Oh also i want to have a realistic look.

ArMaDoN · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2001 1:33 pm

my question exactly... been trying too paint for so long and still no progress... i wish there was someone here that can just direct us in the right direction exactly where too start. Dhabih has a tutorial but it's old and not very effective

Pls someone help us

MD-02-Geist · member Member # Joined: 22 Dec 2000 Posts: 63

Why not effective ... i like it. All i can say is draw, draw, draw, draw and ... oh dont forget to draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw. Did i say that u also have to draw and draw, draw, draw, draw draw, draw. When u are finished with drawing, the draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw and draw... besides that u should not forget to draw and draw. Still keep drawing while u are drawing. I think thats the best advice i can give u (or anybody can).

The best sentence i hear from my art teacher was... learning by doing. And besides that he said u must draw, draw, draw ... err ... i think we had that before

Just joking. What i want to say... keep practising and u will progress. I neither can draw a shit compared to the guys over here, but i try not to give up and keep working on my skills with the aim to get as good as they do

IEatLitleBabies · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2001 1:41 pm

ill third that, i havent progressed with this tablet that much, ive tried a few pictures.. but its not really going well..

ArMaDoN · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2001 1:53 pm

I would like everyone else that reads this too give their comments on the issue. Do you guys know of good tutorials i mean really good ones for painter of Photoshop i mean shading, colouring.
Thanks alot for the reply's

Awetopsy · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2001 2:13 pm

you know, any of the big leaguers would say draw anything and everything. sometimes you can go over a coloring tutorial 100 times and not learn a thing from it. you have to learn from life. go out somewhere and bring a sketchpad and some colored pencils. do 5 minute studies of things. but instead of drawing the thing you want to color just break it down into the blobs and blocks of colour that you see.

maybe somebody else can explain that better than me... :P but I hope you get the idea.

there is no quick way to learn it. It just takes alot of studying your subject matter and practicing lots.

sacrelicious · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2001 2:38 pm

People here have the right ideas- you must learn by doing. Tutorials will not instantly teach you how to draw or paint, and in fact can often be harmful rather than helpful. Just experiment. When I got my tablet it was like starting from square zero; I had to learn everything all over again. Just keep at it!

Also, this is the wrong forum. Posts like this belong in Digital Art Discussion. Keep that in mind for future reference.

gowansy · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2001 4:32 pm

oh shit yeah......never realizied, soz!
oh well atleast i get more replies here

Thank for all the info guys, but can u recommend what brushes to use for certain effects, it seems to me that its not just me, but quite a few other ppl who need help.

MeatyCheesyBoy · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2001 4:43 pm

The question I have for people who are having trouble is this, how many times have you sat down and made a concious effort to try to paint something with your tablet or with a paint brush or with some colored pencils or with some markers, etc.? Have you tried 10 pictures? Have you tried 100 pictures? I gurantee that the people on the forum who are good at coloring have done at least 10,000 pictures and they've done them over the course of years not a matter of days or months.

I myself am terrible at drawing and painting but I'm getting better every time I do it. I'm not getting better by leaps and bounds but I am getting better.

I'm more into 3d renders and have gone through the sme thing with that. When I first started I read every tutorial I could find thinking that somehow I'd magically get good but in the end, what it took was just years of practice. And even after my years of practice, I'm only now getting results that are decently good.

It'll probably take me another couple years of intense practice to get where I'd like to be. But the only thing that'll get me there is time and practice not tutorials or some magical shortcut.

Tutorials and advice from pros can help to reinforce techniques and ideas for you but ultimately only the practice will make it stick and make you truly understand it.

I think I've rambled and preached long enough, I think you get my point. Go practice.

Matt Elder · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2001 7:07 pm

OK, I am by no means a good digital painter but here are a few steps for "painting":

1) Rough Sketch - draw a rough sketch on paper and have a good idea as to where a light source is coming from. Draw in shadows accordingly. Scan into computer

2) Flat Colours - lay down some flat colours using a hard edged paint brush (100% opacity).

3) General Shadows and Highlights - paint in some shadows and highlights (50% opacity). One 'easy' way to do this is using the eyedropper tool to select a colour. Then go a tone darker for shadows and a tone lighter for highlights. This will enable a good range of colours. You can also use dodge and burn but don't over do it.

4) Detail - using smaller hard edged brushes, add in fine detail to give the image more shape and definition. If some edges seem to hard, go over these with a soft edged brush to soften (don't do this too hard otherwise the image will appear too "blurry")

5) Final Shadows and Highlights - touch up the image a little to ensure that you have a good tone range.

As already mentioned, practice and experiment to see what suits your own style.

oscar · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2001 1:45 am

Er?

I'm not too fond of messing with opacity settings, as it often results in very bland images (no offence Matt).

If you have an Intuos pad, like you say you do, I'd suggest you make the opacity depend on the pressure you put on your stylus pen. This works more natural than drawing with a predefined opacity. Just doubleclick the "Brush" icon in the toolbar and check "Opacity" in the Stylus field.

Also, I tend to use hard brushes all the time, start big (100px diameter) and work my way down to the 1px brush. I hardly ever use soft brushes...

[ June 09, 2001: Message edited by: oscar ]

ArMaDoN · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2001 2:37 am

mmm...
thx alot for the reply mattelder.
Does anyone here have tutorials with pictures and what layers to work on too keep the linework on. What a good tutorial was. was dhabih's but i wanna see some other tutorials...
With colours and linework etc.
I know that too start playing around is the trick. but learning from seeing is also just as good. Some people need guidelines too work too and some people can just figure it out on their own... i am not one of them.

Thanks alot in Advance

[ June 09, 2001: Message edited by: ArMaDoN ]

Lazysam · junior member Member # Joined: 06 Feb 2001 Posts: 41

also dont expect the tablet to make up for lack of talent, and i dont mean this in a bad way

Matt Elder · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2001 3:44 am

try some of these:

http://www.psionic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/html/tuts.html

http://www.geocities.com/rmtdesign/tutorial.html

http://jdillon.net/tutorial/cgmain.html

http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/

Check out the "studio tips" section:
http://www.dchiang.com/dchiang_flash.html

http://www.sijun.com/dhabih/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004805.html

http://www.sijun.com/dhabih/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004912.html

[ June 09, 2001: Message edited by: Matt Elder ]

gowansy · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2001 8:59 am

Tnx for all the replies and help, nice to see u guys are replying even though its in the wrong section of the forum