[neebhore]

Ok, brief explanations, this is no where near finished, nor even that size (about 10 times larger!), just a quick sketch so far, so you get the general idea.
Basically i was inspired to make this after seeing Enayla's 'fae boy' (in the finished work section), and Dhabih's 'broken' (the knight with the sword in the rain, in his gallery).
It's based on me, it's supposed to be a miserable (i know it doesnt look particularly miserable yet) fariy, sitting in the rain.
I've left all the white space there, so you get a general idea of how much background i intend to have. Basically im not sure whether to have a modern industrial background, with all pipes etc and the little fella bieng human size, or, a traditional forest style, trees etc and er...standard fairy size.
The main area immediatly behind of the fella, i want to extend to infinity, getting lost in the mist of the rain, if you follow.
Also if there's any crit's on anatomy, please go ahead!
Any help is appreciated, greatly, this is the first picture i've decided to put my whole arse effort into . I wanna make it good, and i need help.
..ohyeah, the pik....


[This message has been edited by neebhore (edited March 21, 2001).]

[neebhore]

"Nobody loves me, everybody hates me......"

[Bibbe]

I'd say go with the forest style background.
My thoughts are that perhaps his right eye
is a little small compared to the left one.
Perhaps it shows up this way in this angle.

Another thing that crossed my mind is that his left leg is kinda straight out from his body. Try place yourself in that position and it feels like you should be more crouched in the torso unless you have a long arm.
But i am not sure about that. It looks good in the picture but doesn't feel good when i try to place myself in that position. Feels like i am more crouched that the fella in the picture...

I'm a small person though =)

that's my few cents.. i am still a newbie, but at least i tried ...
- Bibbe Aka Peter

[frostfyre]

Nice concept. Since he's wearing modern trousers (the belt loops) I'd put him in a modern setting, but maybe with some "mystic" lighting around/near him somewhere.

As for anatomy crits, I think the reason his one leg looks off is that it's unclear as to where the knee is, and gives the impression that the shin is too long. By contrast, the other leg features a long thigh and a short shin. Try dropping a layer on top and "drawing through" all of the anatomy so you know where all of the joints are, and how the masses sit in space. Don't worry about how it looks, just worry about nailing down the anatomy accurately in space. Fix accordingly. Not only is it good practice, but it will help you later with your shading. Someone else suggested trying the pose yourself. If it comes right down to it, get a reference photo of someone in that pose, or take a picture when you try the pose.

[neebhore]

Thanks for the comments. Now i look at it again, the right eye does look a bit smaller.
Now then, the right leg! The idea is that's it's going away from the body, it doesn't look like it at the moment i know but i'll sort that when i colour it. I very rarely ever use references, and i find that my pictures do generally look alright, but when you pose it, it never feels right! I'm trying to use references more though. The right arm is supposed to be resting on the knee, that's why you can't see that. I do tend to exagerate arm and leg length's, only slightly.

Right so that's one for traditional and one for modern... maybe i'll do 2 versions.?!

[edit]- oh no, wait, you're talking bout the other leg. oh, um, hmmm.... *me goes back to drawing board.

BIBBE: I'm a small person too, so no worries, at least you made your opinion. I've been going round aload of the big names's post and criticising!! Don't feel right about it, but normally they either ignore me, or do actually take note of what i say, which is cool. I appreciate it dude! And that goes for you to frostfyre, kudos. I'll look out for you guyz!

*quick update*
I've removed some lines from the front leg, giving it a diferent angle, sort of, and changed the line of his back so he looks more hunched.


[This message has been edited by neebhore (edited March 21, 2001).]

[faustgfx]

i looked at it. now what?

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[neebhore]

LOL
I just knew you were gonna do that!
Hmmm, you could offer some criticism or advice, or tell me which background you think would be better, or give me a new idea for a background. Whatever takes your fancy really.

[neebhore]

I had a go at changing the right eye, but i f*kd it up royally, so i chanjd de whole face part, got it exactly how i wanted it, inked the whole lot and then f*kd up the face part with the ink. So i got pissed off with the sketch at jumped to the colouring! Thanx 2 those who bothered.

[Lizafish]

Sorry Neeb. Havent been in here for the past few days. I think the industrial setting would be more appropriate but theres no reason why you cant have a few trees growing amongst all the man made buildings etc... It would create a nice antithesis.

Could be difficult though, Im pants when it comes to drawing backgrounds anyway. But the figure looks quite nice. The back leg does look a little long but if you're happy with it then go for it. Its good to have a perfectly drawn figure but don't forget that it can become too clinical if you keep going over and over the same piece.

There is so much of my older stuff I Gakk! at but I can see Ive improved and being on here has shown me how not to draw mens waists ; ) heh

Personally I find it hard to draw a relaxed, natural pose without reference of some sort.

One of the best exercises I had in Art college was having to draw quick 5 minute sketches in the street. We drew people at bus stops; sat on park benches; eating a sandwich etc... You can learn a lot. Just take an A5/A6 sketch book around with you. It sounds a little obsessive but it works.

Hope Ive been some help mate. Gone on for a bit long really.

In future I will make my time. ; )

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[neebhore]

Hehehe, thanx dude. I do practise when i can, but i dont realy get much free time. I have learned alot since my first visit here, and im trying to use references more. Anyway the colouring is coming along nicely .

As for the quick sketches, i usually get bored of things after about 10 minutes or so anyway , here's my last 10 minute sketch, well before the fairy thing. I never did anything with this, but i think i might soon.