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Tommy · member Member # Joined: 30 Jan 2001 Posts: 142

Need some creative feedback on this one. I'm going blind looking at it. There are things with the anatomy I could use some help with.

Here ya go. Look and laugh.

btw, spare me comments about her looking like a guy.

I already know. I'll fix that later.

Elijah · Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 3:01 pm

Okay seems like the biggest problem is the neck, You replaced the sternomastoid(the most noticiable big muscle in the front of the neck) with a bunch of smaller muscles going the wrong direction. Feel your own neck or take a look at it. The sternmoasiod starts behind the jaw's base and goes down to the clavicle(collar bone), but it splits own cylindrical piece goes to the center of the two clavicles and the other piece that is flat goes behind the cylindrical one to just a little off center of the clavicle.
that muscle won't be flexing it will just make the front of the neck alot simpler.
The muscle that will be flexing is the trapezius, the large muscle covering most of your back and the back of your neck.
Shadows look good, but the head also seems a bit disjointed, just rememer that the bones connected to the neck are are connect to the spine. It iwould be a very nice piece if it didn't those errors.
You might want to check out some antatomy books. I think "Human anatomy for artist" by Eliot goldfinger is the greatest.

Awetopsy · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2001 11:00 am

here hope this helps you.

I tried to map out for you where you need to adjust things. first I agree about the neck. you need to see how neck muscles work. next, the arms you've drawn are way too short, and the legs too. the torso is too long. there doesnt seem to be a sense of perspective in your drawing. anyways Im not trying to tear you apart. just hoping to help your eye a bit.

-awe
[edit] oh yeah, you need to make the head a bit bigger too.

another excellnt book to pick up is "Drawing the Head and Figure" by Jack Hamm. Excellent teaching book.

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Elijah · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2001 9:08 pm

Yeah it looks much better Nice work. I really like the ambiant light

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Tommy · member Member # Joined: 30 Jan 2001 Posts: 142

Thanks for the feedback guys. Things look much clearer today. And I see I need to practice anatomy alot more. I did a quick update on the picture, so I hope this one looks better. Added a secondary lightsource, but it's very quickly done.

If there's anything else, please let me know. I'll post an update as soon as I'm done with it.

Thanks again.

-Tommy

prophet · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2001 12:58 am

Great ReWork Tommy! It's a huge improvement from the original. Keep it up

Awetopsy · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2001 2:22 pm

Awesome!!! great redraw..

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Tommy · member Member # Joined: 30 Jan 2001 Posts: 142

Thanks for the replies, guys. I appreciate it. I'll try to finish up this picture within a lifetime or two. Hehe. I have a tendency to move on to new images.

8)

-Tommy

mac65 · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2001 5:11 pm

Looking very nice, I like it mich better with the second light source.