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Theophilis Divinity · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 4:39 pm

Somethings telling me to finish this pic that started out as a study. Problem is I'm stuck as far as the background goes. Not sure that it fits the mood the image is trying to portray. I know the perspective isn't the greatest nor the scheme entirely accurate(the hue could be bumped a bit to appear more violet, but thats a quick fix. I'm mainly concerned with the background. Any suggestions would help-

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i had to do the same exact thing for a project at school. except i used a hopper painting as reference, but we used contrasting colors.

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waylon · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 7:34 pm

Hi. One thing really strikes me as odd about this picture - the color of the shadows. When the sun is setting like this, everything receiving direct sunlight is going to be golden, and everything catching ambient light from the sky will be blueish. You got that right, except for the fact that your sky is bright orange, so there's nothing to cast the blue light on the roof! Also, your shadows aren't quite right in a few places... like, for instance, the side of the porch closest to us would be mostly orange, since it would recieve a lot of bounce light from its surroundings.

So I would change the color of the sky to something that would actually be casting blueish light, and your pic will immediately improve a lot. Then, just think about what surfaces are receiving light from which sources, and you'll be well on your way.

-- Transcendent -- · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:42 am

The yellow light in the sky is perfectly fine !! Remember, the warm light here should cast shadows with a bluish tint, nothing wrong with that.

But the blue tint here might be a little bit of an overkill - try desaturating it, and make it more blue than purple. Other than that, good work

I like it very much !

Theophilis Divinity · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 2:28 pm

Hello,

Waylon: not sure what you mean by the sky, but heres my take on it. Opposite from where the sun is setting should be darker? Meaning: should my sun be setting lower and the sky fading to dark on the top? BTW- Thanks for the suggestions on the shadows. Unfortunatly for me understanding radiosity isn't my greatest asset. I've got a long ways to go. I do hear what your saying though. I've stared into this pic too long and kinda lost focus on that.

Trans: Funny you said that about overkill. When I first started coloring this pic I was going with more blue than violet but I wondered into yellow in the sky and grass and felt the violet tint would make it more of a split comp (orange, yellow, blue-violet). But now I may go back to blue, depends what I do with the sky I guess.

Man I've got alot to learn. Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.

waylon · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2001 4:05 am

Hi. Maybe I can explain better. Let's say you were actually hanging out at this house, and you decided to go lay on top of the roof. Everywhere you look (upwards), everything is orange - which means all the light hitting you and the rest of the roof is orange. Which is why the blue roof looks kind of strange in this situation. There's nowhere that the blue light is coming from.

If you're going for realism, the first thing that comes to mind to solve the problem is to make the sky blue. Your other option is to leave it orange, but make it cast orange light on everything - obviously, this would make for a much less interesting picture.

Hmm. If I wasn't so damned tired, I'd do a paint-over to show you what I mean. If you want, I can do one tomorrow. Otherwise, I hope this explains what I'm talking about a little bit better.

Theophilis Divinity · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2001 11:55 am

Waylon, thanks again for your input. I kinda understand what your talking about. My next question is if I go the way of a blue sky, should there still be orange cast into that(sky) or would the lighting just be illuminating the objects its cast upon- the sides of the hills, grass, etc. (if any of that makes any sense). I would do a quick paint over right now to show you what I think your saying, but unfortunatly I'm home on my lunch break. I'll see what I can do tonight and post that. Thanks for your help again- If you want to do a paint over feel free, I know that'll help.