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poxen · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2001 5:59 am

hay hay..
here is my latest pic..i was posting it in the final sesion, but I realsied that it wasn�t finished..=) thx to MeatyCheesyBoy

I found some old superman magazines in a box when i was hunting for inspiration yesterday.
Here it is. kinda blurry. But that can be fixed.
I like the face, which i concentrated mostly on..
crit please! what wrong and what good!

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poxen · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2001 2:10 pm

Gahhh!!

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poxen · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2001 2:11 pm

Gahhh!!
oneday has past, and no post!
why! I need post, i need crit!
Do i suck that hard? No I don�t! i know that much! But i gett that feeling when i post a pic, which i think is pretty nice, and no one bothers...pepole who draw a straight line gets mor replys then i do!
jeje....

well, here is an improvment, I THINK SO!!!

Why do i write here, no one bothers anyway!

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Flinthawk · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2001 2:31 pm

Personally, I haven't posted yet because I haven't been able to see your image yet. Every time I click on this thread it takes too long to load. It's either too big or your server is too slow...one of these things you can help. I was hoping that replying and waiting a sec would help but it's still not loading. By the size of the area that the image is trying to load in I'm guessing that the image is pretty damn big...try downsizing it real quick.

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Al_kgs · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2001 2:54 pm

Hi,
don't despair, you don't suck pal... Your pic is alright.
I've got one crit concerning the body though. Obviously you spent a lot more time on the face which is quite good but the body is kinda blurry.
Personnaly i prefer the first picture which is more focused on the face... the body being not so interesting.

Work on the outfit. That's pretty much all i can say!

Bubonic · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2001 6:50 pm

nice job on the face and lips overall

poxen · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2001 11:53 pm

ahh!! at last!

Flinthawk-ok, sorry. Have fix that problem now. They are 24kb each.
Thx!

Al_kgs-�Thx...i now i dont suck.
Yea, its more funny to paint faces, in the start there where just a face, the body was not on my mind, so thats why. Will work more on the body.
You prefer the first one? hmm...i don�t =), i think the first is to blurry.

Bubonic- thx man!

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Flinthawk · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 11:40 am

Ahhh, they load up faster than a speeding bullet now. Much better.

As for the image, I have to agree with what's been posted about the costume being a little blurry when compared to the face to clean it up a little. The S logo looks a little too big, too. I know you haven't concentrated on the body though. Oh, the shadow around the biceps doesn't look right...turn down the contrast a tad since it's in the light.

The face looks pretty good right now. The hair is coming along...try adding some sharper highlights and some dark lines going through the highlight area to indicate that slicked back hair that Superman tends to have. It'll help create a different texture from that of the face because right now everything looks like it's made from the same material. Use highlights and shadows to help indicate different surface qualities.

Hope that helps, it's looking great so far, finish it up.

-Flinthawk

poxen · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 1:49 pm

Thx Flinthawk- Yea i don�t like the body, have bigg problems with it, specially the cap. The S, is it to big...ok.
Texutres, well i suck at that...have never used any..=)
Will try to fix the problems...thx man!

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Flinthawk · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 3:16 pm

Oh, I didn't mean textures in the sense of taking them and applying them like you would to a model. I'm saying that you should paint and keep in mind the surface quality of whatever part of the image you're on. If you're painting highly reflective metal then you'll expect sharp shadows and highlights. If you're painting dull metal then you'll have lot's of diffuse or blurry looking highs and lows. Cloth you'll see little contrast between the mid tones and highlights since cloth has a very rough surface so light won't reflect well off of it. That's what I meant, just to clear things up.

-Flinthawk

poxen · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 5:43 am

ok
got it!
Thx!

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poxen · Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 1:05 pm

Well, here ya go. I dont no if this is what you mention Flinthawk.
I just tried to make his dress shine more, like plastic..=)

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Dryfire · Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 4:24 pm

his face looks too old, try making the shadows on the right side of his face a bit lighter, or more toward the color of the skin

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Dakkan · Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 5:18 pm

hey, i noticed how u'r getting better and better with each new pic i see of u'rs... keep up the good work man.

poxen · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 6:33 am

Dryfire- yea i think so to, will fix that! thx!

Dakkan- thx man! Words like that make me wanne dance!

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poxen · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 10:51 am

here we go again! painted more of his body this time..
is it better?'

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poxen · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 1:50 pm

zaar- thx!
hehe, yea his bigg..and your right the neck is kinda tiny!
Yea the cape and the costume!! =( i cant make it look good!
but sharper lightning and tinner fabric seems right, yea! thx!

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zaar · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2001 12:23 am

Nice work! I like the face structure.

But I have a few thoughts:
1) Compared to his arms and chest, his neck and face seems really skinny. Unless it a skinny boy wearing a plastic superman costume

, you will need to add muscle mass to his neck or make the arms and chest thinner.
�) His cape and costume seems to be made out of clay, or some really thick fabric. I think you should work on the cape more and try to make it feel thinner, that might be done by letting the structure of the muscles underneath affect it more, as it is now I think it has to much of an own shape instead of wrapping around the shoulder. IMO the fabric of the costume and cape also has got to much white in it, it could need sharper highlight.

Keep going!

mattready · member Member # Joined: 12 Oct 2000 Posts: 114

nice! i like....

only one or two crits.....

1. the face looks kinds old and frail. reminds me of Ronald Regan

Supes is supposed to be big, strong, and badass...make him that way.

2. the hair is to fro-ish. looks like Jimmy Hendrix or that guy from the Wallflowers. Clark slicks his hair....supes should reflect that as well....

other than that i think it is awesome. his body/chest looks strong and built.....the way it should. i like the BG....looks like he's on Krypton or some shit....NICE WORK! POST MORE!

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poxen · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 4:15 am

mattready- thx man!
yea, hehe, Ronald Regan..=) working on that, making him more squarish...
hmm..hair, cant paint hair!! but in the paper he has that curly hair, maybe some more details should do it..
thx!

there will be an update soon!

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poxen · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 6:28 am

Here is an update..
well, change the colors a bit, just a test..
fixed the neck to, and jaja..

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Joachim · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 7:50 am

how about indicate things more. Draw with harder edges and clearer shapes.

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poxen · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 9:22 am

nice jocke..hehe, thats a fast one, and it still looks better then mine...hehe, whats wron with me..well, i do my best!
Thx!

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poxen · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 10:50 am

here it is!

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Joachim · Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 12:01 am

looks better poxen. But, still, I know it's very hard, but try to simplify things even more. Try to think of him as a polygonal character, faces and start simple and then like in 3d adding more faces to get more edges...picture him as a simple 3d shape.
But, don't get me wrong. Micke showed me that goblin you did, and you have really improved a great deal !
Btw, how old are you ?

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poxen · Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 11:49 am

Joachim- yea...iam kinda new at digital art...i prefer to paint with oil and a simple pencil...cant handle that wacom table..hehe...

ok, 3d...I will do my best..

ohh..that goblin..yea, think so to..its kinda funny to look back at the first pics, lens flares and smudging...=)

I am 18.

Thx Jocke!

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poxen · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2001 7:02 am

here is the final!
better jocke?

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mattready · member Member # Joined: 12 Oct 2000 Posts: 114

by george, i think he's got it....

GREAT JOB!

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