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stone4heart
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 2:09 am     Reply with quote
My question is not axaclty that the how much time it takes a sketch to achive photo realism !, well i wanted to ask lets say i have a sketch how you turn it photorealistic look as i guess everbody is a digital artist here.... o) is there a particuler technique ?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 9:53 am     Reply with quote
I do realise you didn't wanted that kind of answer but...
time
or
skill.

Seriously, it depends on the person doing that. It can range from 60 hours (me) down to 4 hours for the ultra pros I would venture to think. But most of the time it take many many hours if you want to go for photorealistic.
And as for the technique, there are so many that you need to try a few and experiment to make up your own. Something you'll be comfortable with and find it speedy.

There was this guy working only with graphite and making sketch reprods of pictures that were totally amazing.. hmm Anyone remembers the link ?
Basically, he was laying his values with graphite powder and then work his way from there with sharp pencils / erasers. I think he was also using natural charcoal.

If I ever find that link I'll be sure to post it here for you.

[ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: egerie ]
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 8:27 pm     Reply with quote
Are you referring to Steven Assael?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 6:05 am     Reply with quote
Nope but that's a great artist. Isnt Steven Assael a teacher of a forum's member ? Someone posted that link a year ago or so.

But the guy I'm refering to is Asian I beleive.

Ege who'll spend her lunchtime faffing around with a shitload of bookmarks. need to find it.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 3:38 am     Reply with quote
What about dumping the sketch and using a digital cam?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 4:27 am     Reply with quote
egerie: Assael was JR's teacher
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 7:21 am     Reply with quote
yup.
what they said.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 8:59 am     Reply with quote
Good memory eh ?

I FOUND THE LINK !!!!!! Altho watch your step some pages seem to have gone missing.
And before someone shrieks about his technique or subject, he still does some nice shading.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 9:48 am     Reply with quote
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What about dumping the sketch and using a digital cam?


! that doesn't make sense !
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 9:54 am     Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Max Kulich:
! that doesn't make sense !


It just won't get any closer to reality, home boy. Comprende?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 4:03 am     Reply with quote
Often I find that it's the colour that really makes an image look photoreal. Look at matte painters like Craig Mullins. Often their work is very loose but their skill with colour captures the feeling of light perfectly and helps us believe it.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:25 am     Reply with quote
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It just won't get any closer to reality, home boy. Comprende?]


Entender FLat! Anyway, no sense !
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 9:23 am     Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Max Kulich:
Entender FLat! Anyway, no sense !


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 2:53 pm     Reply with quote
ahahaha
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:52 am     Reply with quote
Hehe, thats funny flat. Really
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 9:56 am     Reply with quote
I dont think you can really answer that question, number one each individual artist interprets things differently hence you may have one artist who draws photorealistically all the time and then you have other artists who would have a hard time trying to draw something photorealistically, its not saying that they arent good artists its just that everyone interprets and thinks differently thats the beauty of art.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:34 pm     Reply with quote
This is good question but very difficult to answer. I think desiring to do original fantasy artwork that making a decent comic book style sketch for me is the hard part, and painting it should be easier.

But, it also depends on what one calls "photo realistic" which may not take any more time then doing a painterly piece or a high quality piece of art that doesn't obey the photo-realism standard due to some alterations in style or form delination.

But how long? If you copy a photo then I think it should be possible to do most types between 12 and 40 hours. But, it depends on the complexity of the picture, the techniques used, and the quality desired.

If I had a sketch or trace and a simple face to copy then I suspect I could make a copy to look photorealistic within 12 hours. But, if I had to make a picture look photorealistic that has a lot of edges that are hard, soft, obscured, background, and many figures (i.e. imagine an awesome Frazetta or Wheelan painting) then it might take even 100 hours or more.

I'm still learning but this seems reasonable to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 4:13 am     Reply with quote
thank you all the artist, normally i can make a raw concept in an hour and a finished sketch lets say in two or three hours...but when it comes to have realism ...it takes me days...


thanks
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