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Topic : "How much time it takes a sketch to achive photo realism !" |
stone4heart junior member
Member # Joined: 16 Aug 2002 Posts: 33
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 2:09 am |
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My question is not axaclty that the how much time it takes a sketch to achive photo realism !, well i wanted to ask lets say i have a sketch how you turn it photorealistic look as i guess everbody is a digital artist here.... o) is there a particuler technique ? |
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egerie member
Member # Joined: 30 Jul 2000 Posts: 693 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 9:53 am |
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I do realise you didn't wanted that kind of answer but...
time
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skill.
Seriously, it depends on the person doing that. It can range from 60 hours (me) down to 4 hours for the ultra pros I would venture to think. But most of the time it take many many hours if you want to go for photorealistic.
And as for the technique, there are so many that you need to try a few and experiment to make up your own. Something you'll be comfortable with and find it speedy.
There was this guy working only with graphite and making sketch reprods of pictures that were totally amazing.. hmm Anyone remembers the link ?
Basically, he was laying his values with graphite powder and then work his way from there with sharp pencils / erasers. I think he was also using natural charcoal.
If I ever find that link I'll be sure to post it here for you.
[ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: egerie ] |
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thinkwink member
Member # Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 75 Location: Philadelphia PA
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 8:27 pm |
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Are you referring to Steven Assael? |
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egerie member
Member # Joined: 30 Jul 2000 Posts: 693 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 6:05 am |
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Nope but that's a great artist. Isnt Steven Assael a teacher of a forum's member ? Someone posted that link a year ago or so.
But the guy I'm refering to is Asian I beleive.
Ege who'll spend her lunchtime faffing around with a shitload of bookmarks. need to find it. |
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[666]Flat member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: FRANKFURT, Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 3:38 am |
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What about dumping the sketch and using a digital cam? |
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Mr. T member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 2001 Posts: 516 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 4:27 am |
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egerie: Assael was JR's teacher |
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jr member
Member # Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 1046 Location: nyc
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 7:21 am |
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yup.
what they said. |
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egerie member
Member # Joined: 30 Jul 2000 Posts: 693 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 8:59 am |
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Good memory eh ?
I FOUND THE LINK !!!!!! Altho watch your step some pages seem to have gone missing.
And before someone shrieks about his technique or subject, he still does some nice shading.  |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 9:48 am |
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What about dumping the sketch and using a digital cam? |
! that doesn't make sense ! |
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[666]Flat member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: FRANKFURT, Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 9:54 am |
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quote: Originally posted by Max Kulich:
! that doesn't make sense !
It just won't get any closer to reality, home boy. Comprende? |
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stefan junior member
Member # Joined: 13 Jul 2001 Posts: 6 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 4:03 am |
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Often I find that it's the colour that really makes an image look photoreal. Look at matte painters like Craig Mullins. Often their work is very loose but their skill with colour captures the feeling of light perfectly and helps us believe it.
[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: stefan ] |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:25 am |
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It just won't get any closer to reality, home boy. Comprende?] |
Entender FLat! Anyway, no sense ! |
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[666]Flat member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: FRANKFURT, Germany
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 9:23 am |
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quote: Originally posted by Max Kulich:
Entender FLat! Anyway, no sense !
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Tinusch member
Member # Joined: 25 Dec 1999 Posts: 2757 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 2:53 pm |
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ahahaha |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:52 am |
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Hehe, thats funny flat. Really  |
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daeldren junior member
Member # Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 45 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 9:56 am |
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I dont think you can really answer that question, number one each individual artist interprets things differently hence you may have one artist who draws photorealistically all the time and then you have other artists who would have a hard time trying to draw something photorealistically, its not saying that they arent good artists its just that everyone interprets and thinks differently thats the beauty of art. |
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Light member
Member # Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 528 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:34 pm |
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This is good question but very difficult to answer. I think desiring to do original fantasy artwork that making a decent comic book style sketch for me is the hard part, and painting it should be easier.
But, it also depends on what one calls "photo realistic" which may not take any more time then doing a painterly piece or a high quality piece of art that doesn't obey the photo-realism standard due to some alterations in style or form delination.
But how long? If you copy a photo then I think it should be possible to do most types between 12 and 40 hours. But, it depends on the complexity of the picture, the techniques used, and the quality desired.
If I had a sketch or trace and a simple face to copy then I suspect I could make a copy to look photorealistic within 12 hours. But, if I had to make a picture look photorealistic that has a lot of edges that are hard, soft, obscured, background, and many figures (i.e. imagine an awesome Frazetta or Wheelan painting) then it might take even 100 hours or more.
I'm still learning but this seems reasonable to me. |
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stone4heart junior member
Member # Joined: 16 Aug 2002 Posts: 33
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 4:13 am |
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thank you all the artist, normally i can make a raw concept in an hour and a finished sketch lets say in two or three hours...but when it comes to have realism ...it takes me days...
thanks  |
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