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Lunatique
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 2:36 am     Reply with quote
Jucas pointed out some stuff that won't load, and I triple checked, and they all seem fine, but they REALLY won't load for some reason.

Go to my site, click on "Photography" section, and then click on "Second Look" section. When you click on a pic, the blown up one shows as a red X. That's not supposed to happen, especially when I even tried deleting the directory and reuploading it.

Same thing with the "Scary" section in photography. The thumbnails won't even load, and there's nothing wrong.

WTF?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 2:47 am     Reply with quote
Hey again Luna,

Your problem is inconsistent use of caps and probably also, use of spaces and non letter/number characters (such as - instead of _ underscore which is OK) in your pages and images.

Try changing all extentions to lower case, both in your html code and also the filenames themselves ...

xxx.JPG --> xxx.jpg

Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 3:12 am     Reply with quote
Yep.. HawkOne is right..

eg. This is working: http://www.enchanted.prohosting.com/photography/second_look/second_look_02.jpg

This is'nt working: http://www.enchanted.prohosting.com/photography/second_look/second_look_02.JPG

and all your links have upper case extentions

[ June 12, 2002: Message edited by: gArGOyLe^ ]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 4:56 am     Reply with quote
Yep... if your website is hosted on a UNIX server, capitalization is crital. If caps are used in the filenames in the HTML code, then they must also be the same caps for the filenames on the UNIX server.

I don't believe that's the case for NT servers. For NT servers, it doesn't matter. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that...
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Lunatique
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:56 am     Reply with quote
ahh, Cute fTP does it again.

Whenever I upload stuff, Cute FTP, and also WS FTP Pro both changes my extension whenever it feels like it. Sometimes it doesn't do it, sometimes it does.

I always save as jpg, but it gets changed to JPG without me knowing. WHY does it do that???
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 6:47 am     Reply with quote
It's not Scottish, so it must be CRAP!! No really...what environment are you developing in? I personally use (and prefer) Dreamweaver, and it has a built in FTP engine; I've been using it for a couple of years now - it rocks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:02 pm     Reply with quote
@ Philip : Yep, you are right, Unix servers are case sensitive and NT servers are not.

@ Luna : Cute FTP is a nice little prog, you just have to know how to set it up right ... , your headache can be easily solved. Here's how :

In the --> Site Settings window
choose --> Edit
then choose --> Site Settings Page 2 tab,
under Filenames area check Use AutoRename scheme and choose force lowercase (if that is what you want)

@ Tom : I agree, Dreamweaver is good shit, I use UltraDev 4, but it's FTP abilities seems quite fragile and not as extensive as a dedicated FTP program, I hear that is one reason to upgrade to MX , it is good enough in most cases though, and the synchronize feature is just gorgeous, saves A LOT of time when working with large 800 page behemoths ... probably overkill for normal homepage use though ...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:31 pm     Reply with quote
Yep, I use both CuteFTP and Dreamweaver... I actually use Dreamweaver just for its FTP engine which is just smooth... so smooth...

BTW... even if you're working with an NT server, it's always a good idea to keep all capitalization the same for all file names so that when and if the website gets ported to a UNIX server, things'll still work.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:44 pm     Reply with quote
I'm a Dreamweaver boy. I've been using for about exactly a year. I can never get the damn ftp part to work, so I'm a cute FTP boy as well.

HawkOne- hey, thanks for the tip on the renaming thing. I went ahead and added one for the stupid renaming of my jpg to JPG.

Yeah, I'm developing on a NT station, that's why it shows up on my puter just fine, but gets weird when it sits on my server.

I just tried Dreamweaver MX, and it's quite nice. Fancier than the 4, which is what I'm using. But, I hate the fact I can't float tool windows anywhere I want. You can only dock them to specified places now, and that bugs the hell outta me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 8:36 pm     Reply with quote
I guess I'm dumb but I'm a notepad guy.... If I write everything then I KNOW it is written to proper standards. I imagine that by now Dreamweaver (which common consensus agrees is the best so far) doesn't write sloppy code like some others. It still doesn't matter because I'm a broke college student who can hardly afford gas for his car and his coffee drinking habit.

By the way, I code everything in lower-case since that's become a XHTML standard. Its a good practice to start.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:39 pm     Reply with quote
notepad is unnessecarily and excruciatingly tedious, especially for graphic-heavy html, or really anything more complex than a very, very basic site.

i cannot see a reason why one shouldn't use dreamweaver or golive, as they have text editors built in, with advanced html features, in addition to their wysywyg editing. sloppy code will be produced if you dont care about it, but that's also true if you do not use generated code at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:41 pm     Reply with quote
'xcept for the money, of course :/
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 4:35 pm     Reply with quote
I know i know....

I guess old habits die hard. I've been using notepad since my beginning (close to 4 years ago--i think). Its hard for me to see the "need" for a GUI prog when I would rather spend the money on a leather jacket or concert tickets (or more importantly, food). However, I see it quickly becoming more of a need since more projects are piling up and more deadlines to meet.

*sigh*

It also seems people are more concerned with how quick one can pop out a product rather than quality... *starts to rant*
I guess nothing will be good enough.
Blagh!
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