[Arc][Pello]

right ive had Painter 7 for about a week and im still experimenting with it but one thing i would like to be able to do is create this sort of brush effect.



i dont know how to achieve that effect, anyone know how to do it for Painter 7?

[Ian Jones]

Looks pretty similar to the 'wet edges' of the pre 7 photoshops. Opacity... and that defined edge to each mark is a dead giveaway. I'm not sure what you would do in painter.

[JFreak]

uh, Arc][Pello. I'm no expert but that looks like it was done using the paintbrush tool in photoshop. And not even the new brush engines in photoshop 7, you could probably do that even in photoshop 5 or whatever version they started using pressure sensitivity. It's more the technique over anything else, a transparent loose application of paint. Hope that helps

[Arc][Pello]

i guess ill have to keep experimenting then till i find it. i want to use it so that i can losely build up form and lighting quickly Painter 7 to my limited knowledge doesnt have this style of brush at default, which considering its simplicity is odd.
anyway thanx and if theres anyone else who knows please help.

[Jin]

Hi,

You can get something close by painting the background (on the Canvas) using the Tinting category's Soft Grainy Round.

To get a similar splatter effect, in the Layers section menu, choose Lift Canvas to Water Color Layer. In the Layers section, check the Pick Up Underlying Colors box. Then use the Water Color category's Eraser Salt with the following setting adjustments:

BRUSH CONTROLS PALETTE

GENERAL
Dab Type: Circular
Stroke Type: Single
Method: Wet
Subcategory: Grainy Wet Abrasive
Source: greyed out
Opacity: 3%
Grain: 0%

SIZE
Brush Dab Profile: top left icon
Size: 27.4
Min Size: 50%
Size Step: 12%
Feature: greyed out

SPACING
Spacing: 200%
Min Spacing: 9.3
Damping: 50%
Continuous Time Deposition: box unchecked
Cubic Interpolation, Points: 3

ANGLE
Squeeze: 90%
Angle: 116 degrees
Ang Rng: 360 degrees
Ang Step: 12 degrees

BRISTLE
greyed out

IMPASTO
Draw to: Color
all others greyed out

EXPRESSION
Size: Pressure
Jitter: None
Opacity: Random
Grain: None
Color: None
Angle: Random
Resat: None
Bleed: None
Invert: all boxes unchecked
Direction: 0 degrees
all others greyed out

WELL
Resat: 100%
Bleed: 0%
Dryout: maximum
Brush Loading: box unchecked

AIRBRUSH
greyed out

RAKE
greyed out

RANDOM
Jitter: 4.00
Random Brush Stroke Grain: box unchecked
all others greyed out

WATER
Wetness: 1000
Pickup: 100%
Dry Rate: 40%
Evap Thresh: 46%
Cap Factor: 0.000
Grn Soak-In: 0%
Accurate Diffusion: box checked
Wind: 270 degrees
Force: 0%

CLONING
Clone Color: box unchecked
all others greyed out

MOUSE
Pressure: 100%
Tilt: 0 degrees
Bearing: 0 degrees
Wheel: 100%

LIQUID INK
greyed out


Once you have these adjustments made, in the Brushes palette's Variant menu, choose Save Variant and give it a new name not already used by Painter. Now you can experiment and continue to make adjustments. If you want to return the brush variant to the settings used when you saved it, in the Brushes palette's Variant menu, choose Restore Default Variant.

Hope this helps get you started, at least.

Have fun!

[V Shane]

I use Fine Point as a preliminary to my oils work in painter 7. Look under Pen tools/Fine Point.

Make your mask middletone solids, and glaze with the Fine Point over it. Usually 19-29%



[ June 29, 2002: Message edited by: V Shane ]